I don’t say this very often, but: I agree with Facebook. Fuck Deutsche Telekom and their poisonous peering politics.
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I don’t say this very often, but: I agree with Facebook. Fuck Deutsche Telekom and their poisonous peering politics.
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If someone wanted to introduce a bit of high quality competition law: how about ISPs over a certain customer base must engage in settlement free peering at or near cost?
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You could apply the law to content providers above a certain user count too. That would be fine.
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@erincandescent What's the context for that? What did the court ruling involve?
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@steffo I don't know what this specific court case has said
But in general DTAG charge flagrantly unreasonable amounts for traffic destined to their customers well in excess of any other major connectivity provider -
Anton 🏳️🌈 🇬🇷Pappas (he/him)replied to Erin 💽✨ last edited by
@erincandescent @steffo The court case was that Meta wanted a 40% discount on renewal and Telekom countered with 16%. Meta refused but continued using Telekom services so the court ruled that the previous more expensive contract was in force. I don't see how this paints Meta in any positive light especially given that we are talking about thousands of a percentage of its revenue.
Afaict they could have avoided this if they pulled the plug on Telekom in 2020.
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@nemobis Sender pays is what Telekom wants, and what South Korea has. It has decimated domestic competition in South Korea.
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Erin 💽✨replied to Anton 🏳️🌈 🇬🇷Pappas (he/him) last edited by
@antnisp @steffo Facebook’s behaviour here may have been illegal - we will have to wait for appelas to fully know - but its not like Telekom were neutral actors here. If they wished to terminate the peering arrangement, they had full power to shutdown their BGP sessions over the interconnect.
And the underlying principle - that Telekom and other ISPs (who have a natural monopoly on access to their customers, who are already paying them for access to the internet) should not be able to extort other parties by charging peering fees that are way out of proportion with reasonable costs.
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@erincandescent Yes. The problem is defining "cost".
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@nemobis the correct cost is free (because Telekom are already being paid by their customers)