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Maybe if you’re paying the Samsung/Sony/LG premium

But the cheap brands most people buy like TCL and Hisense, cut corners everywhere they can so that they can hawk a 75" “4K” TV for $400. They usually die in < 5 years and it’ll probably be, at least one of, the LED backlight strips. They’re damn near almost made to be “disposable”

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I don’t know about new ones, but you’re right older Bravias are built like tanks. I got a 40" LED that’s, uh, more than 15 years old now. Survived 5 rental moves, covered in nothing but cling wrap and chucked at the back of me car.

I have no idea what to do when it eventually breaks…

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“Dad the game is telling me to put it on my wrist”

“Yea only if you’re a coward”

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I’m curious about the need for non-smart TVs… Are you using it exclusively with a game console or is there some sort of other device you use with it?

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I still got mine too, 32" bought in 2012 with my PS3 then. That thing is indestructible, survived 4 years in the army and 3 moves.

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A media center for watching TV (currently an Nvidia Shield with Kodi) and various games consoles are literally all I’ve used a TV for in the past 20 years.

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Not who you asked but I hook up mine to a PC meant for streaming, there’s no need for it to be smart with either browser or applications that stream the content. Unless I’m missing something.

It’s not a need as much as a preference to not want every device need a connection if you have other means to handle the tasks. Also less bandwidth used since they don’t send back random data to headquarters, not that I imagine it’s a lot.

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I still have a smart TV so I don’t need to have a non smart tv. But I refuse to use smart features for several reasons:

The built in software is often laggy, ugly, and hard to navigate (mine is from like 2016 so all 3 of these are huge issues for my specific TV but my parents just bought a 2024 model oled and I find their gyro / touchpad / pointer remote to be excruciating to use)
I hate the idea of getting used to the Samsung apps / os and then feeling like I need to stick with Samsung
They never seem to support the software very long - my TV pre-dates Samsung’s current tv OS and no longer receives updates, so the Plex app available for it doesn’t even connect - so I couldn’t use it even if I wanted to

I mostly watch stuff downloaded to my Plex, so a PC running Plex htpc / desktop or any android box (Nvidia shield is pretty good) with the Plex or jellyfin app is all I need. I also like that I can easily watch YouTube through a browser with ad block and sponsorblock (I think smarttube does that for Android boxes like the shield)

I also game on the PC so I guess you could consider it a game console for the purposes of categorizing the use case.

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Weren’t Samsung TVs the one that would connect to neighbors TVs and stuff and find other ways to connect to the Internet?

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No, that’s a handkerchief indicating openness to specific fetishes.

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Smart TVs are literally designed to spy on you, so that’s pretty shit. The software is shit, there are ads in thousand dollar TVs. It doesn’t need its own Netflix app that lags to fuck, or a YouTube app that is far worse than just using a computer.

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On top of what everyone else said: they’ll inevitably stop being supported before long and it’s always easier to plug something new in the HDMI.

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Thought that was Hisense… Could be both actually.

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I can’t believe people are out here raw dogging their TV’s operating system. To me it’s as strange as buying just a monitor for your desktop PC and wondering why your $80 computer injects ads everywhere and sells every scrap of data you give it. I haven’t owned a full sized TV in over a decade, and before that my dad always used an Apple TV and before that a dish network DVR so I always assumed it was the norm to buy some external input device, because I literally have not lived any other way.

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Wouldn’t that only work if your neighbors tv was plugged into Ethernet so that the wifi chip can be free to start a hotspot? I can’t find any info about that so I’m not sure.

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Made a huge difference when I replaced my 12 year old 1080p with a new 4K that wasn’t even expensive. Media these days is made with 4K in mind with the tiny texts and stuff, it was barely readable anymore on my old TV. But I also bought a PS5 at that time so I wanted to enjoy that as much as possible.

I gave the old one to a friend who’s not as privileged and always tight on money. Win Win.

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Doesn’t really look like it then, though all the OLED and QLED were 4k.

It did make me wonder what quantum led means though.