Why does GNOME have a bad reputation?

[soller@fosstodon.org]

@matk @BrodieOnLinux @aks @tripplehelix Thank you for your work!

[soller@fosstodon.org]

@jvnknvlgl Why is just pointing out the toxic behavior of a GNOME developer such a problem for you? Do you agree with their response?

[jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social]

@soller first of all, I feel that the “toxic behavior” accusation is quite overblown. This discussion has been going on for years now. I’m not saying that I agree with the response, I’m just saying that I understand where it’s coming from. But I also think that you, a person with a reasonable amount of followers, should know better than to publicly point people to someone you don’t agree with. Having a following comes with a responsibility, whether you like it or not.

[soller@fosstodon.org]

@jvnknvlgl If you do not want to be called out, please do not post extremely toxic nonsense on a public platform.

[jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social]

@soller I hope you can understand that the same goes for whatever you’re trying to accomplish here.

[soller@fosstodon.org]

@jvnknvlgl I would like a few select GNOME developers to stop treating anyone who kindly disagrees with them as bad faith actors with an evil agenda. Yes, there are the haters, but simply asking if SSDs could be supported should not be met with a response involving time machines.

[jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social]

@soller on the other hand, I would like you to stop sending your multiple thousand followers to someone that has already blocked you for your past behavior. But I suppose we’re not going to agree on any of this, so I wish you all the best.

[soller@fosstodon.org]

@jvnknvlgl It is simple and easy to delete the post if it is such a problem!

[jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social]

@soller come om.

[soller@fosstodon.org]

@jvnknvlgl You are defending a toxic person and shaming me for having too many followers?

[jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social]

@soller I am shaming you for behaving irresponsibly with the amount of followers you have, that’s something else entirely.

[soller@fosstodon.org]

@jvnknvlgl Why are you not shaming the person who made a toxic post?

[aks@scalie.zone]

@matk @soller

thank you, and good luck i really like the zone idea in general.

having the application related windows inside a designated zone and thus being able to move them all around by dragging the zone around (if implemented so) is brilliant idea.

[soller@fosstodon.org]

@aks @matk From what I recall, Matthias has put a lot of work into this specific issue, which when solved will enable a number of high profile apps to use wayland. It really is awesome.

[matk@mastodon.social]

@soller @aks The biggest issue faced by the protocol is that Wayland was designed to be fully declarative, so clients tell it what they intend to do and the compositor does it for them, instead of clients telling the compositor explicitly what they want. Zones bring quite a chunk of imperative behavior with their placement hints, and some Wayland people and compositor devs dislike that...
(But it's IMHO necessary, even though less "pure")

[soller@fosstodon.org]

@matk @aks Do you need any more review from the COSMIC side? I saw Victoria review it a while ago and those comments appear to all be resolved