I can't believe I've become the "just use the command line" girl, but here we are.
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@floby hahahahahaha
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@noracodes maybe we should idk make frameworks to make creating accessible interfaces to CLI software easier instead...
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And like, yeah, I'm a little annoyed about this. There is a limited amount of money and time to spend on developing dev and OS-layer tools - why are we spending that on unreliable, expensive, and socially irresponsible LLMs instead of building computers with composable, understandable, accessible interfaces?
Because of capitalism, I know, but we can at least not pretend that we enjoy it.
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@Lunaphied perhaps!!
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Xandra Granade 🏳️⚧️replied to !!__NORA__!! last edited by
@noracodes One of the hills I will die on (which, as with most hills that I will die on is likely incorrect to a significant degree — this is me acknowledging a personal flaw!) is that terminals are actually pretty user-friendly in principle. It's the really important details about how each terminal works that tend to make them inaccessible; those have the advantage of being mostly solvable problems, and not inherent to the idea of terminals writ large.
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Xandra Granade 🏳️⚧️replied to Xandra Granade 🏳️⚧️ last edited by
@noracodes At least one of those problems is that we largely tie output presentation to inputs — there's no inherent reason that accepting terminal commands means that only textual output should be returned, using at most box-drawing characters to hack together more graphical output.
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@xgranade and, indeed, so much of what I do on the terminal these days uses `dot` and `imagemagick` to pass images to `timg`, which, in many terminals, can straight up draw images on the terminal canvas!
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Jordan :ms_nonbinary_flag:replied to !!__NORA__!! last edited by
@noracodes Welcome to curmudgeon club, I just dropped your shoulder chip in the mail!
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@noracodes this is one of the reasons I like nushell. Unlike POSIX shells basic tasks like “get the first item in a list”are discoverable without either very careful reading or a search.
Poor usability combined with terrible search give me some sympathy for using an LLM as a shortcut for “I just want this to work”
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@jordan omg, I get to be in a club with you??
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@drbrain Oh yeah, absolutely. Nushell, expecially the stuff I've seen you do with it, is sooooo cool.