Wanted fedi resource: a list that's just "if an instance has blocked any of these instances, it's an utter clowncar you shouldn't even think about joining, and probably should move away from if you're there".
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Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:replied to Rich Felker on last edited by
@dalias i rewrote it a little bit to make it more clear
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Erin 💽✨replied to Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian: on last edited by@ariadne @dalias honestly, as with most of the times these things come up, the original post is problematic but not that bad; the greater problem is the framing of criticism as disingenuous and entirely invalid.
The patterns of inter-community schisms like these are universal across social networks and the world in general -
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@erincandescent @dalias right, exactly. that's why i went "that take is unfortunate", shrugged and moved on.
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@ariadne @dalias your point is well taken overall, but AIPAC wasn't founded by evangelicals, it was in fact founded by Israeli lobbyists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC . (You may be thinking of Christians United for Israel?)
That's not to say AIPAC is completely endorsed by the diaspora, because the diaspora is definitely very diverse in its opinions on Israel. (And thankfully, younger Jewish folks in the diaspora are much more likely to be anti-Zionist.) But AIPAC is not a Christian organization.
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@ariadne @dalias As i say, definitely not quibbling with your overall point! Just wanted to clarify on the history there, not least because AIPAC should, frankly, be fucking forced to register as an agent operating on behalf of a foreign government. They are explicitly serving the interests of Israel even when it is at the expense of American interests.
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@ariadne @dalias (A lot of diasporic Jewish support of Israel is also because Israel spends a lot of money and effort on propagandizing diaspora Jews specifically, too, via things like Birthright and that stupid colonizer tree-planting bullshit. As those things get exposed more and more as propaganda, i have a lot of hope that more diasporic Jewish folks will realize what they've inadvertently bought into.)
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I grew up in a Christian Zionist church. Can confirm that this is the only reason Christian Zionists care about Jews and Israel at all.
More specifically, many of them believe that Russia is prophesied to invade Israel, and that will trigger the events of the end time prophecies of Ezekiel and Revelation.
That is why they support Israel's war. That is why they support Russia. The more unrest, the closer they get to the trumpets sounding. -
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@adrienne @dalias yeah that's why my grandmother bought in so hard. at one point she even proposed we *move there* during the Bush administration (oh the irony of an "anti war" person being zionist is not lost on me).
my argument always was "but oklahoma is just fine, and israel is likely even hotter than here."
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