Nobody hates working together with leftists more than other leftists
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To be clear, I believe vegan/vegetarian is the morally correct position even though I do eat meat. My point is that if we worked together we could cause more good in the world than we do by fighting.
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To be clear, I believe vegan/vegetarian is the morally correct position even though I do eat meat. My point is that if we worked together we could cause more good in the world than we do by fighting.
“Our adversaries are the people on the other side of the aisle. Our enemies are right here”
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Vegan here, bottom left is a very small but sometimes very loud minority.
Top left is kinda wrong because veganism is a moral position. You wouldn't say „I personally don't like killing people but I do respect your religious tradition of human sacrifice“ (being hyperbolic to hammer home the point).Mostly, a vegan diet is even cheaper than an omnivorous diet and where that might not be the case there's A.) something completely wrong with the agricultural economy and B.) most vegans would agree that these problems need to be solved.
@[email protected] I see the point you're trying to make (and explained in your other comment) but this is an unfair misrepresentation of vegans. I'm sure this is your perception, but it seems your perception is warped and ill informed by said small but loud minority of vegans and also other, usually intentional misrepresentation of vegans by other media.
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Vegan here, bottom left is a very small but sometimes very loud minority.
Top left is kinda wrong because veganism is a moral position. You wouldn't say „I personally don't like killing people but I do respect your religious tradition of human sacrifice“ (being hyperbolic to hammer home the point).Mostly, a vegan diet is even cheaper than an omnivorous diet and where that might not be the case there's A.) something completely wrong with the agricultural economy and B.) most vegans would agree that these problems need to be solved.
@[email protected] I see the point you're trying to make (and explained in your other comment) but this is an unfair misrepresentation of vegans. I'm sure this is your perception, but it seems your perception is warped and ill informed by said small but loud minority of vegans and also other, usually intentional misrepresentation of vegans by other media.
Isn't it a little weird to call vegans who say eating meat is murder a "loud minority", and then explaining why you cannot be a vegan without saying that eating meat is murder (hyperbole or not)?
Is there something in your comment I'm missing, or is this supposed to be some self-aware joke?
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Isn't it a little weird to call vegans who say eating meat is murder a "loud minority", and then explaining why you cannot be a vegan without saying that eating meat is murder (hyperbole or not)?
Is there something in your comment I'm missing, or is this supposed to be some self-aware joke?
Tell me, did you leave out the other half of what bottom left guy says on purpose or did you just not read that far?
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Vegan here, bottom left is a very small but sometimes very loud minority.
Top left is kinda wrong because veganism is a moral position. You wouldn't say „I personally don't like killing people but I do respect your religious tradition of human sacrifice“ (being hyperbolic to hammer home the point).Mostly, a vegan diet is even cheaper than an omnivorous diet and where that might not be the case there's A.) something completely wrong with the agricultural economy and B.) most vegans would agree that these problems need to be solved.
@[email protected] I see the point you're trying to make (and explained in your other comment) but this is an unfair misrepresentation of vegans. I'm sure this is your perception, but it seems your perception is warped and ill informed by said small but loud minority of vegans and also other, usually intentional misrepresentation of vegans by other media.
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Tell me, did you leave out the other half of what bottom left guy says on purpose or did you just not read that far?
"I don't care if your family starves, eating eggs is literally murder!" - How can this not be represented as "Eating meat is murder!"?
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"I don't care if your family starves, eating eggs is literally murder!" - How can this not be represented as "Eating meat is murder!"?
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"I don't care if your family starves, eating eggs is literally murder!" - How can this not be represented as "Eating meat is murder!"?
Are eggs meat? And don't you think that part „I don't care if your family starves“ might be fucking important context?
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No, that is not at all everything that bottom left guy says.
I don't want to have the same discussion twice simultaneously, so: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/16162457
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The only thing worse than a heathen is a heretic!
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My point exactly! I don't see where the discrepancy lies.
Maybe that calling someone a murderous cultist is not the same as saying their family should rather starve?
Maybe that calling someone a murderous cultist is not the same as saying their family should rather starve?
this shouldn't be ones reaction anyway regardless if you are in a "murderous cultist" or not. And maybe this post was just a hyperbole and caricature of hyper militant vegans?
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I mean... If they didn't believe veganism had a moral high ground they wouldn't be doing it. That's something and badgering people about how eating meat is literally murder is something else.
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To be clear, I believe vegan/vegetarian is the morally correct position even though I do eat meat. My point is that if we worked together we could cause more good in the world than we do by fighting.
Getting the average omnivore down to the recommended 6-8 ounces of meat per day would make a tremendous difference on its own. I really didn’t know how much excess protein I was consuming until I made some vegan and vegetarian friends.
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Maybe that calling someone a murderous cultist is not the same as saying their family should rather starve?
this shouldn't be ones reaction anyway regardless if you are in a "murderous cultist" or not. And maybe this post was just a hyperbole and caricature of hyper militant vegans?
And maybe this post was just a hyperbole and caricature of hyper militant vegans?
And my comment critizises this post for displaying hyper militant vegans as the norm. But everyone apparently just wants to get all railed up and shit.
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Are eggs meat? And don't you think that part „I don't care if your family starves“ might be fucking important context?
"Are eggs meat?" - Yes, that's what I'm saying, I'm not sure how it can be understood any other way.
Though, how can calling somebody a murderous cultist not be considered the least bit demeaning, whereas saying their family should starve is? As per "You wouldn’t say „... I do respect your religious tradition of human sacrifice“" having similar aggressive or demeaning meaning as "I don’t care if your family starves".
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And maybe this post was just a hyperbole and caricature of hyper militant vegans?
And my comment critizises this post for displaying hyper militant vegans as the norm. But everyone apparently just wants to get all railed up and shit.
