I can’t let this slide as @TLisaB has in their bio ‘Islam and right-wing extremists are the greatest danger for queer people’.
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I can’t let this slide as @TLisaB has in their bio ‘Islam and right-wing extremists are the greatest danger for queer people’.
That is a far right position. It erases queer Muslims all over the world and plays right into the civilisation discourse that is, by definition, a far right argument. The media collective I’m in literally includes an amazing queer Muslim.
Go read books like This Arab is Queer or the Arab Queer Glossary (and this is just on the Arab world - most Muslims aren’t Arabs).
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@ayoub come and walk in my shoes when I take the walk home from Mannheims "Queer Center" and see who is attacking, shouting at "us". Hint: 100% muslims. Check what happens in Germany every day: 60 knife attacks by muslims. I can no longer walk in my home town without a big can of maze ready to spray, visible in my hand. But sure, "The Religion of Peace".
Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth
Is Islam really a Religion of Peace? What makes Islam so different?
(www.thereligionofpeace.com)
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@earthworm @ayoub
I agree. It is a structural problem, as you say. What I miss though, is that there is not one form of protest by muslims *against* their islamist fellows. Not long ago a police officer was killed with a knife by a muslim right in front of my door in the middle of Mannheim. There was no "demo against islamic terror" afterwards but defeaning silence from the so called muslim society. Sorry, but this is my personal experience in my everyday life. -
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Simple question: Is there a Muslim country in the world where all people can live as they wish in freedom and liberty? Gays, lesbians, trans, queer people, members of other religions, human rights activists? Where these people can read, see and hear what and where they want? If so, where?
Walk with a trans flag in TelAviv. No problem.
Walk with a trans flag in Gaza. Killed in 3-2-1 ... -
Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Elia Ayoub (he/him) last edited by [email protected]
@ayoub @TLisaB alright, Israeli leftist Jew here.
This is nonsense. Islam, as of itself, is a religion. As such, it has been abused to justify crimes. Christianity was abused this way many times - specifically against Islam, and with the exact same "Islam is dangerous" sentiment.
If anything, the sentiment is "non-secularism and pusedoscience is the worst blah blah blah" (also, btw, the Arab world was the most scientifically advanced place on earth for a good couple hundred years)
And honestly, people who say that, fuck off. I know queer Duruze people. That's a religion very close to Islam. What's the difference between them and a Muslim? Nada. What's the difference between me and a Muslim? Judaism and Islam are both very similar religions, too. How are they different?
And Islam and Christianity are both historically warmongering. Christians are practicing conversion camps, christians are discriminating, christians are sponsoring...
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by [email protected]
@ayoub @TLisaB ...the homophobic government that took my country hostage and tainted its legacy.
Is Christianity, then, the greatest danger to queer rights? No, it isn't, and so isn't Islam.
Saying that is spreading Netanjahu's propaganda, and is simply untrue.
Don't let Netanjahu use the rights he still hasn't had time to take to justify his crimes.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to T Lisa B last edited by
that there is not one form of protest by muslims against their islamist fellows
That's like saying [insert random dictatorship]'s left doesn't exist, because they don't protest, and conclude that [all citizens of said dictatorship] therefore must be evil, failing to acknowledge they don't protest because of the dictatorship.
I'm not comparing Islam to a dictatorship here, don't even try to accuse me of that; I'm pointing out that the fact you don't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to T Lisa B last edited by
Walk with a trans flag in TelAviv. No problem.
Yeah? Now go walk with a trans flag in Kiryat Shmona.