Y'all, you don't have to be grateful when Apple (finally) implements something in Safari. As long as they're preventing all real competition on Safari *and* taking $20+BN/yr from the web, the absolute *minimum* we should expect is that iOS web browsers...
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Y'all, you don't have to be grateful when Apple (finally) implements something in Safari. As long as they're preventing all real competition on iOS *and* taking $20+BN/yr from the web, the absolute *minimum* we should expect is that iOS web browsers are the safest, most capable, responsive, and high-performance for every use-case.
It's been a dozen years since that was even occasionally true.
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Deciding to underinvest and, therefore, suck is just a business choice. Deciding to suck *while preventing all competition* is a totally different kettle of fish.
Until Apple is forced to allow engine competition, you absolutely do not have to hand it to them.
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They aren't even keeping up with the most insistently requested developer features:
...and important stuff is totally broken:
Web Push on iOS - 1 year anniversary - Webventures
TL;DR: Web Push on iOS is nearing its one year anniversary. It's still mostly useless.
Webventures (webventures.rejh.nl)
Anyway, this is why you should get involved with @owa. Apple shouldn't get away with putting the web in the corner just because it likes money and hates competition.
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Aaron In Minnesotareplied to Alex Russell last edited by
@slightlyoff @owa I agree that "Apple shouldn't get away with putting the web in the corner just because it likes money and hates competition."
But two things can be true at once, and I am also very glad about the progress Safari has made especially recently and how certain members of that team have engaged here in the Fediverse on what improvements they should make next.
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Alex Russellreplied to Aaron In Minnesota last edited by
@aeischeid @owa You aren't seeing what Apple is doing in the background to suppress progress. Being grateful that they're effectively marketing some of their belated catch-up without nothing that they haven't even offered an apology is antithetical to web progress.
Their boot is still very much on our necks.
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@aeischeid @slightlyoff @owa there's a difference in how we interact with individual devs or team leads — whose goals are often very forward-oriented — and corporate leadership whose goals are about limiting competition and allowing as confined an experience as possible.
I'm glad they've made progress, but the state of mobile Safari in particular is absolutely the result of corporate disinvestment in the web as a policy.
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@ben_zen @aeischeid @owa We must absolutely be polite to the individuals, but we do not need to participate in the celebration pantomime that Apple puts on. We're owed an apology and the boot off the web's neck.
Remember that they're still spending HUGE amounts of money to prevent engine competition, including funding astroturf lobbying groups that are larger and better funded than Safari's whole DevRel team.
So be polite, but demand transparency; when Apple *will* stop undermining the web?
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@slightlyoff @jmc Yes! We should all use Edge instead!
(see OPs profile to understand why I said that)
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