It's always so easy to blame women, isn't it?

William Lindsey :toad:

@lolonurse I think we both know that Elie Mystal is very aware that many American voters did not choose this. The figures are there for all of us to see. But he's identifying a key strain in our cultural history that continues to dominate the thinking and behavior of many of us — and in doing so, reminding us of the value of the perspective of marginalized communities like African Americans who have never had the luxury of ignoring or pretending about that strain.

lolonurse

@wdlindsy @JoyceVance
The thing is (to my way of thinking), in order to be "free" but safe & secure, there needs to be an ordered, reliable, focused establishment. Then we can feel free to be free thinkers, dissenters, artists, inventors, explorers... so I appreciate the grounded, realistic people as much as the more daring ones, because I know they're telling me facts & sensible things. I can only fly if I know where the ground is.

lolonurse

@wdlindsy
His father (Elie Mystal Sr) was the first African American county legislator elected in Suffolk County, NY (Long Island).

David Nice

@wdlindsy There's never just one reason. But I wish the Democrats would stop tearing each other apart. Decide collegially what needs to be changed, but Christ, Nancy Pelosi, really?

Doctor Historianess

@wdlindsy Prof Tisby is super smart and I think he's right about this--especially now that Trump voters are expressing shock that tariffs will actually drive up consumer prices.

William Lindsey :toad:

@davidpnice I am very much with you on that point. It's such a waste of valuable time and energy, so dysfunctional, the tearing at each other. I've been called just about every name in the book here in my feed in the past few days by people purporting to lean Democratic in their thinking, accused of supporting genocide, accused of being a naive "Blue Maga" liberal — accusations that have nothing to do with who I am and what I think. How is that building solidarity resist real evil?

William Lindsey :toad:

@historianess I agree.

Stella C

@wdlindsy @davidpnice I don't get it - we have a very temporary lull. Why waste that time tearing things apart?

William Lindsey :toad:

@lolonurse Great to know. If I remember correctly, he has Haitian roots, too, perhaps on that side of his family.

William Lindsey :toad:

@lolonurse @JoyceVance Yes, I agree. And this is a big reason that I read Joyce Vance continuously with great interest.

William Lindsey :toad:

@SCampbell @davidpnice Precisely. That's it in a nutshell. Sane people don't waste their time as impending disaster approaches, attacking each other. They band together to prepare for the looming disaster.

David Nice

@wdlindsy @SCampbell Doing otherwise suggest some Democratic movers and shakers are living in a bubble and really don't connect with the horrible reality out there for so many people.

William Lindsey :toad:

@davidpnice @SCampbell This is a conventional humiliation ritual the corporate media drag out each time they think they have the Democrats down. I think no really serious person imagines the Democratic party doesn't need to address some of its issues. But having the media, which has played a huge role in normalizing Trump, command that this be done is rich.

lolonurse

@wdlindsy
He was actually born in Haiti.

Peet Tetteroo

@wdlindsy Agreed William, only when one mentions that only 30% of the USA eligible voters voted for that circus it brings the whole mater into perspective, I think..

William Lindsey :toad:

@Pettet50 I agree, Peet.

William Lindsey :toad:

@lolonurse Thanks for reminding me.