Russell Contreras zeroes in on findings of the PRRI "Challenges to Democracy" study. Who, precisely wants to round up immigrants and put them into camps?

William Lindsey :toad:

79% of Republicans vs. 22% of Democrats

75% of white evangelicals
61% of white Catholics
58% of white mainline Protestants

#Republicans #Trump #JDVance #immigrants #violence #MassDeportations #churches #WhiteEvangelicals #WhiteCatholics #MainlineProtestants
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William Lindsey :toad:

As Moira Donegal reminds us, Trump's plan to round up immigrants, put them into camps, and deport them is a "moral abomination," no matter how many white Christians lust for it and how the corporate media whitewash it.

"What is being proposed is a vast cruelty, a human tragedy, and a costly national investment in racism."

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Trump’s proposal for mass deportation of immigrants is a moral abomination | Moira Donegan

This would be a horrific program of ethnic cleansing – yet most of the media reaction has focused on the economic costs

the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

Extinction Studies

@wdlindsy It's not "who wants to be fascists as to immigrants", it's "what media influences convinced so many Americans they like fascism." And how can we deplatform those influences.

A Tattered Scrapbook

@wdlindsy “Costly national investment in racism”. For a country founded on slavery and genocide, still committed to the deaths of people of color in Asia, I’d say this is business as usual.

thewritewords

@wdlindsy well, it's good to know those Christians on board with mass deportations really absorbed their gospel lessons. :thinkSpin:

Canadian Crone

@wdlindsy Having a poll on this subject validates it. It cannot be validated under any set of circumstances. Like polling Germans on whether Jews should be rounded up, or the disabled, the mentally challenged, anyone whom they disliked. It’s unconscionable to insinuate that having an opinion poll makes the act of rounding people up and deporting them, legitimate

Katrina Katrinka :donor:

@wdlindsy
Since he's including legal immigrants, maybe Trump wants to seize Elon's stuff for himself and deport him.

Lot⁴⁹

@wdlindsy Well this is awfully scary.

Pablo Martini (Geezer)

@wdlindsy

as he comes from an immigrant family (Germany) it's all a bit weird?
But as all the 3 generations avoided fighting for the USA weird is normal?

William Lindsey :toad:

@PabloMartini German and Scottish immigrants: his mother was a Scottish-born immigrant. But many of the Republicans now cheering from Trump have very recent immigrant roots. Sununu, for instance, is the son of an immigrant. They just want to target the "bad" immigrants with brown and black complexions, they tell themselves.

William Lindsey :toad:

@12thRITS For sure.

William Lindsey :toad:

@katrinakatrinka Touché. And Melania's….

William Lindsey :toad:

@CanadianCrone I'm not quite sure that I understand why trying to ascertain what people think about an issue — and we need that information — validates the issue under discussion.

William Lindsey :toad:

@npaulreads Isn't it, though? They seem to have a very … eccentric … version of the Christian gospels.

William Lindsey :toad:

@Tattered I wonder if Moira Donegan's statement in any way implies that the history of the US is not deeply rooted in slavery and genocide. I don't read it that way. And, of course, the same has to be said of one European country after another that was heavily invested in the system of buying and selling people as enslaved property.

William Lindsey :toad:

@aka_quant_noir Yes, I agree. A good question.

Canadian Crone

@wdlindsy It’s like discussing the rights of children. Whether people agree or not with children having rights, there is no discussion to be had on the subject. Children have rights! To even open a discussion on it seems to validate the belief that it is a debateable issue.

William Lindsey :toad:

@CanadianCrone Polling and discussing seem to me two very different things.

Canadian Crone

@wdlindsy To my mind, polling implies reflecting on a subject in order to provide my opinion. A discussion is throwing ideas around, causing me to reflect. In both cases, we are touching on subjects that are non-debatable. People should not be put in concentration camps, people should not be rounded up and have their movements restricted within walls because of the circumstances of their birth. Like children’s rights. Discussing their legitimacy implies their rights can be removed.

A Tattered Scrapbook

@wdlindsy Indeed; and the same countries continue to profit from maintaining the same inequalities. I think this is one of the reasons that BRICS represents a real challenge to the hegemony.

As both dominant parties in the US and UK support colonial war and domestic deportations, there is little to hope for there, or in Europe. How far will the West go to cling onto its power?