People focus on Hitler and Nazi leaders and the atrocious lethal lies they told to justify the mass murder of Jews.
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Mastodon Migrationreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Thing is, these guys, mostly white males, are seeing their position of preference in society eroded. While most people see the lessening of deference to their priviledged status as a good thing, they are horrified by the prospect of competing on a more even playing field. So, they are easy targets for the hate merchants who promise them they are in fact superior and being unfairly deprived of their rightful place in society.
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Chris Turnbowreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
A person giving orders is just talking to themselves, without those willing to obey those orders...
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The Danes were super wonderful!!!
95% of Denmark's Jews were saved through dangerous evacuations by sea.
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20231002-gilleleje-denmarks-seaside-town-that-saved-danish-jewshttps://www.iwm.org.uk/history/rescue-of-the-danish-jews
https://time.com/6332953/denmarks-effort-to-save-jewish-population-world-war-ii/
https://www.history.com/news/wwii-danish-jews-survival-holocaust
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BassRck5000replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Inherent human nature...
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@Npars01 @lolonurse @wdlindsy The Finnish people as well. Incredibly brave and fierce
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@lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse @wdlindsy
Finland: It's complicated.
https://variety.com/2024/artisans/global/klaus-haro-never-alone-1235740230/https://www.atlantajewishtimes.com/astonishing-story-of-survival-by-jews-of-finland/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Finland
https://thejewishindependent.com.au/report-finnish-soldiers-participated-mass-murders-jews-ww2
https://www.coe.int/en/web/roma-genocide/finland
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/escape-the-holocaust-the-fate-jews-finland
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Susan60replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Unfortunately “never again” has come to mean that such a thing could not ever happen again because of what we’ve learned as a result. But if we’re not encouraged to analyse & compare, to use critical thinking skills, then it’s not just possible, it’s likely. -
@Npars01 @lolonurse @wdlindsy I compare them with the French. ‘Nuff said
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Susan60 last edited by
@Susan60 I agree. Very well-stated. You put the point precisely.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Nicole Parsons last edited by
@Npars01 @lawyersgunsnmoney @lolonurse Thank you for these valuable links.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to BassRck5000 last edited by
@BassRck5000 Yes, and also inherent in human nature is the drive to collaborate, to assist each other, to build together, to form social units to protect each other, and so on.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Chris Turnbow last edited by
@cturnbow That's right. A Hitler — or a Trump and Vance — would never get anywhere without lots of people willing to swallow lies and to follow commands to hate.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Mastodon Migration last edited by
@mastodonmigration Yes, that definitely plays a role, and the gender breakdown we see in the pro-Trump vote as polls expose that tells us this, for sure. I ask, though, why according rights to people long denied them — in this case, women — erodes the rights of the rest of us — in this case men. I agree that a lot of men have chosen to view women's reception of rights in that zero-sum way. But I don't think this is an accurate assesment on their part of what's happening in the world.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse Have I mentioned to you before Daniel Mendelsohn's book The Lost. It's truly one of the most powerful books I've ever read. From the time he was a young teen, Mendelsohn was driven to try to find out what happened to family members in Eastern Europe during the Holocaust. His book recounts the story of his years of searching for information — and what he found. If only more of us chose to learn what your grandfather taught well: how horrible hate is.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse That's right. And I have to say, this dynamic is not far from my own experience and history. Growing up in the Civil Rights period in the American South and seeing acts of violence against Black people even right in my own community, I saw many "good" people turn their heads, pretend not to see. It can be revelatory to see who will not stand with you when you're attacked, when they day before, they claimed to be a friend.
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BassRck5000replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to BassRck5000 last edited by
@BassRck5000 Yes, the impulse to tribalism is inbuilt in humankind. Also inbuilt is the drive to collaborate, create, stand together, assist each other to build things better for all.
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BassRck5000replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
For the tribe.
Expand the tribe
Enrich the tribe
Protect the tribe.
Family, Relatives, Friends,
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Mastodon Migrationreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Take a workplace example. Let's say a very mediocre lazy white male is the foreman of a crew containing women, blacks and Hispanics. He works alongside them, albeit as their boss, and knows that some of them would do a much better job of running the crew. He now feels threatened that it is not just white guys that can be foremen.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Mastodon Migration last edited by
@mastodonmigration Yes, and interestingly enough, I see just that very thing repeatedly as I walk in my neighborhood, where the hard work of maintaining and repairing streets, cutting trees or limbs from trees, putting on new roofs for houses, and so on, is done almost exclusively by Hispanic men working with a white man as their foreman. And it is very apparent to me that that white man is often mediocre and lazy as he lords it over those hard-working Hispanic men.