@quantumsys I think it's because those communication training programs are meant to ease communication specifically with autistic people, or people that don't have enough data or experience to make a correct assumption.
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@quantumsys I think it's because those communication training programs are meant to ease communication specifically with autistic people, or people that don't have enough data or experience to make a correct assumption.
I.e. talking without assumptions involved is the basis, and the assumptions are added on top - by this logic, autistic people aren't disabled, yeah, but allistic people are wise.
And it's more "functional" because it requires less words - quantity, not quality.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by [email protected]
@quantumsys you're thinking functional in terms of quality (from what I understood) but allistics think in terms of quantity, as they don't even realize quality matters.
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@laxla In my experience, those communication trainings were always focused on increasing the quality of communication, and unfortunately never included any neurodiverse perspective. /info
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@quantumsys of course, it's just that everyone understands better with less assumptions, autistic people especially.
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@laxla In my experience, most (untrained) allistic people experience a higher quality of communication (less miscommunications and lower experienced levels of frustration) when they *can* assume (the rulebook of social cues they are familiar with, primarily), and those assumptions end up matching those of the person they are talking to.
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@quantumsys I'd say the same applies to autistic people, too. We just need a lot more time to learn those shared assumptions naturally.
I mean, look at math. It's a language, and it has clear assumptions, and lots of 'em.
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@laxla I don't think I would even want to learn all those assumptions, because I would have to pretend to be someone I'm not (mask) in order to act on them.
@laxla I guess the core thing I was getting at originally is that autistic people inherently don't do the biggest communication mistake, assuming, yet are labeled by neurotypicals doing science about neurodivergent folks as the ones who are less functional, when really we know now that different neurotypes just communicate differently. It's just a bit silly.