The mayor of Japanese city Nagasaki excluded Israel from the annual peace memorial ceremony.
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@davidculley is isn't whataboutism.
Mayor of Nagasaki doesn't invite Israel because one of Israel's minister said that nuking Gaza i "one of the possibilities".
He was suspended, and Netanyahu said "Eliyahu’s statements are not based in reality".
Mayor of Nagasaki explains that decision based on similar cases for Russia and Belarus where in case of Russia Putin himself was threating using nukes.US said something like "OK, case of Israel here is different than Russia, Russia President says it, here one of ministers said it and his statement was criticized by PM, so in case of Russia this is country posture, in case of Israel it isn't so those cases should not be treated in the same way". Because of this that mayor of Nagasaki stays in position US and other countries said "Sorry, in such case we cannot participate", and you wrote "The USA who dropped the atomic bomb over Nagasaki boycotted the peace memorial ceremony. Because their friend Israel wasn’t invited. After wanting to use a nuclear bomb in Gaza.", you wrote also that this guy demanded dropping bomb on Gaza, when he said that this is an option (and was after that suspended).
So if somebody is doing whataboutism it is you "what about US who dropped bomb", you also passed false information that this guy demanded dropping nuke.Realisty is:
* far right parties in Israel are happy to kill civilians in Gaza,
* Hamas is happy to have killed civilians in Gaza,
* Netanyahu wants war because thanks to this he is still PM,
* Netanyahu and far right parties took whole Israel hostage,
* Hamas leaders are happy when war continues because it means more money and fighters for the cause,
* Hamas leaders took Gaza hostage -
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@przemelek @davidculley It's not only that minister that supports mass civilian causalities in Gaza; it's Ben Gvir, it's Smotrich, it's practically everyone but Netanjahu and Gallant. As for the former, who knows what of his words are his actual opinions, Ben Gvir's, or whatever he needs to say to manipulate people (he's the Ashkenazi leader of the Mizrahi party that has done practically nothing against ada-based economic inequalities and discrimination after being in government for 40 years after all).
As an Israeli, the current government of Israel is illegitimate, and Japan is correct to consider it so. A government that manipulates its own population, that only cares about power and its own slice of the population's cake, that intentionally causes mass deaths and leaves tyrannical and fully, unarguably genocidal regimes in power for its own profit, is not legitimate, and should not participate in such an event.
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Jackie (aka Queen Antifa) 🌹:debian_logo:​:linux:replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @przemelek @davidculley netanyahu's commitment to civilian lives is kinda shakey too.
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@burnoutqueen @przemelek @davidculley Netanjahu's commitment to anything but himself is shakey.
This is why I don't call it a genocide (not anymore, at least): civilian death is a tool, not a goal. Which may be even worse.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@burnoutqueen @przemelek @davidculley even genociders, in their own fucked up way, are trying to make society better. But Netanjahu's only trying to make his own life better.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by [email protected]
@burnoutqueen @przemelek @davidculley Ben Gvir has the good of his voterbase before his eyes, and he believes the way to fulfill that is genocide (like any other dictator).
Netanjahu, on the other hand...
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Jackie (aka Queen Antifa) 🌹:debian_logo:​:linux:replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @przemelek @davidculley I'm of the viewpoint that bibi is essentially morally bankrupt. He's put himself into a political hostage situation where he has to appease actual fascists in his coalition in order to stay out of prison for his corruption.
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@burnoutqueen @przemelek @davidculley ayup.
He fears being assassinated by Palestinians while imprisoned, and by Israel if he were to escape.
He's compromising the legacy of an immigrant country, of people escaping genocide, turning it into a colonial genocider legacy; he's compromising Israel's own security by funding, and elongating a war with, terrorist organizations; he's blaming mass civilian death he ordered or did not prevent on the military (Gaza, Oct. 7th, Meron Catastrophe...).
We've reached the point where unless a foreign power intervenes, Israel is doomed. Jordan's government cannot help, as its population would oppose that; Egypt has no interest in doing such a thing; the Palestinian Authority does not control its own police; and Israel is surrounded by Gaza to the west, the Houtis to the South, Lebanon to the north, the West Bank to the east, and Syria to the northeast. Israel has no ammunition, military leadership is a bunch of uncreative bureaucratic orderpassers, and enemies everywhere.
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@burnoutqueen @przemelek @davidculley the guy's doomed, too. He's a criminal everywhere but Russia.
If Israel survives this - the far right would make him a scapegoat; and the left would pursue him for his actual crimes. He's done for.
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@laxla @przemelek @davidculley
American intervention is the only reason that the Israeli state still exists.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Jackie (aka Queen Antifa) 🌹:debian_logo:​:linux: last edited by
@burnoutqueen @przemelek @davidculley no, it's the reason Israel is in the state it is in. Netanjahu's sponsors are American, and not a lawyer, but not sure those sponsors are sponsoring him legally.
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@burnoutqueen @przemelek @davidculley if not for American intervention, Rabbin wouldn't die, and the conflict'd end. Kahana was American, from New York, and he, and after his death, his movement, had friends there.
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Jackie (aka Queen Antifa) 🌹:debian_logo:​:linux:replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @przemelek @davidculley I was meaning more American weapons, not American immigrants.
Also, why did your country's worst fascist come from America? Curious
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@burnoutqueen @przemelek @davidculley I was meaning American funding.
And why? Because he was convicted for terrorism, as his district defense gang regularly blew up the black district defense gangs' headquarters - so he was given a choice, go to Israel, or life in prison.
He was convicted here for terrorism too, like, thrice.
And as for weapons ---- Israel would've survived without that too, as netanjahu wouldn't dare stretching the war more than a week.
The Ukraine war was a huge hit on Israel in this sense - the ammunition the US gave it was actually previously given to Israel, and stored here. I don't know if the Israeli government was a part of this agreement, though it likely was -- that way, Israel has earned Ukraine as an ally, and remained neutral (to avoid pissing off Syrian rebels) at the same time - it kept the cake and ate it too.