Our next meeting

Angus McLeod

Last Meeting

Recording

https://us06web.zoom.us/rec/share/4hGBTvgXJPlu8UkjkkxVARypNg5DH0eeaKlIBv71D4G3lokYyrCrg7cqBCJmL109.FsHYTZDlVvZXrgcn?startTime=1712254114000 Passcode: z+1*4pUB

Minutes

To refresh your memory, you can read the minutes of last week's meeting here.

Follow up

The Social Web Community Group approved our application to turn this into a Task Force. Async work will happen across any federated platform followed by either (or both) of these categories Category on NodeBB (@[email protected]) Category on SocialHub (@[email protected])

Next Meeting

We're going to have our next meeting in the first week of May.

Time

P lease vote in our meeting poll. Whatever time we decide for this one, we'll aim to keep as our regular monthly slot.

Agenda

Please see this google doc. Everyone has comment permission. Julian will incorporate comments into the agenda.

Julian Lam

@angus If I wanted to find this post on the fediverse, how would I do that?

Angus McLeod

You just found it on the fediverse (right here) One thing I'm noticing is that people intuitively feel that if they can't find a post on a Mastodon server somewhere it's not "in the fediverse". This is not a dig at you, more of an observation about some of the feedback I've been getting about the Discourse plugin. For example https://meta.discourse.org/t/activitypub-plugin/266794/171?u=angus (i.e. it seems to be su…

julian

@[email protected] I proposed an agenda item for a brief report on the (in-progress) FEP-8899, but it's entirely up to you whether you would like to present one or not.

This could be a good opportunity to get some real-time feedback.

infinite love ⴳ

@julian i’d like to amend that agenda item to being something more like soliciting feedback on desired UX

julian

@[email protected] of course, I'll make the change.

(Unrelatedly, tagging @[email protected] to see if the entire chain will propagate back up to social hub... Edit: it did not)

Julian Lam

here Ha ha, yes while technically correct that's not what I meant. Apologies. I mean, "fetchable on-demand via another Fediverse instance". I wasn't able to retrieve the Note via the public URL. If there's a specific ID I was to use, it wasn't readily apparent, that's all. For example, if you paste this URL into a client that supports note retrieval, it will show up. Specifically since we don't have mirroring working between our respective …

Angus McLeod

devnull: If there’s a specific ID I was to use, it wasn’t readily apparent, that’s all. Fair! I've made a PR to add the post object's id to the "ActivityPub modal" for a post to make this more transparent. https://github.com/discourse/discourse-activity-pub/pull/85

Angus McLeod

@nutomic btw, if you like we can make this category follow a Lemmy actor. Then you could contribute to the async work here from Lemmy angus: Async work will happen across any federated platform followed by either (or both) of these categories Likewise for any other implementer. Send me a relevant actor for this (or @[email protected]) to follow and you can contribute here from your own platform.

[email protected]

Why should the category follow a Lemmy actor? That seems backwards, the way it works on Lemmy is that a user follows the community, fetches the post and can then send replies.

Angus McLeod

Yup, both would be necessary. The point of this category following a Lemmy actor would be for you to create new topics / threads via Lemmy. But yes, you will also need to follow from the Lemmy end of things if you wanted to contribute entirely from Lemmy. Anyway, up to you.

[email protected]

That still sounds strange, in Lemmy I can create a topic in a community with a Create activity which references the community in to. Lemmy communities cant even follow anyone.

Angus McLeod

nutomic: I can create a topic in a community with a Create activity which references the community in to So this sends the Activity to the community in to right? For a Discourse Actor to accept an activity from an Actor they need to be following that Actor.

julian

@[email protected], I suppose there's no specific need for category syncing (that's what NodeBB would call it), or community syncing (as per Lemmy parlance). It's something that @[email protected] implemented first and had some minor utility between our respective forums.

Users can follow communities/categories and other users, that'd be the basic expectation.

Angus McLeod

Just want to say that I love that we're already working async between socialhub and nodebb! Federation ftw

hellekin

Is this federating now? So we can follow the ActivityPub category in #software:nodebb @devnull! And... Done!

Julian Lam

Yes, Angus and I had to work through a couple issues on my end (he had a stricter interpretation cavage-12 and the ActivityPub spec, while I... did not ) We've achieved one-way syncing, working on the other half now.

Julian Lam

If I did things correctly, I should have a rudimentary two-way synchronization working now… I'm not sure if there's still a 5 minute delay between posting and federating... let's see.