My dear friends from the US.

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@eldersea You can also use a (free) virtual number, depending on which country you live in (these are not available everywhere). Again, the only thing it is needed for is to receive the one time code to finalise the registration process. And that is also the only information Signal can produce when subpoenaed. When they send that code. That's it.

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@Nathan You want me to install some piece of software that supposedly tracks sone data because you don't believe what Signal has stated many times (and proven by what they give when subpoena'd)? What do I need to install for that?

See https://signal.org/bigbrother/central-california-grand-jury/ on what data Signal can produce. It's not much.

the elder sea

@jwildeboer good to know! It's been a long time since I've had to do this. Do you know if it's possible to switch your registration number to a cash prepaid sim?

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@eldersea Sure, will work. As long as the number can receive the message with the one-time code, every number works. Signal needs "a" phone number for that. Not "your" or your devices number.

Simone Tranquilli

@jwildeboer @eldersea @katlin what i mean is that with the Matrix protocol you have just to choose a server and a nickname. You can add an email for recovery reasons, but is not mandatory.

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@simotranquilli @eldersea @katlin Sure, Matrix also has its place. And I also use it. But not for the purposes I use Signal for. My thread was specifically about Signal. Please respect my wish to stay on topic and to not turn this into a "yes, but" flamewar. Thx!

Simone Tranquilli

@jwildeboer @eldersea @[email protected] didn't want to start a flamewar. I just wanted to suggest another alternative to the mainstream IM, that's all ️

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@simotranquilli @eldersea And I very specifically said in the original toot:

(And to all the folks that want to reply saying that you should use something else for $REASONS, please start your own thread. This is a message from me to my followers, not a flamewar invitation.)

Which you decided to ignore. Thanks, I guess?

Simone Tranquilli

@jwildeboer @eldersea ok, that's my last one: on 4 comments of mine, one was a sincere and friendly way to suggest an open alternative, other 3 have been to try gettingout of a not wanted "flamewar". fine, bye, peace and love.

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@simotranquilli @eldersea So I hope you can imagine how I have to deal with many more people saying that they just wanted to suggest an alternative

the elder sea

@jwildeboer @simotranquilli
Sorry you're dealing with this, I guess everyone needs a primer in reading.

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@eldersea @simotranquilli I'm a big guy with 30+ years of flamewar experience and a happy trigger finger when it comes to blocking

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@[email protected] thank you for that and welcome to my blocklist.

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@edgren note that you can sign up with “a” phone number, not necessarily “your” phone number. The only thing needed is “a” phone number to receive the one time code to finalise the registration process.

Nathan

@jwildeboer

don't trust, verify.

Signal can say they don't store data, but how do you know the app not sending telemetry to Mixpanel, Functional Software or Google?

don't trust, verify.

App tracking protection should be used by everyone, do you know who owns Mixpanel? Who else is tracking you?

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@Nathan On iOS I have the “app network activity” feature that shows this for Signal, which seems ok to me. No third party domains, no mixpanel AFAICS.

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@Nathan For an explanation on the few contacts to mask.iCloud.com see https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/1avojcq/maskicloudcom_and_my_iphone/

Whatevs

@fluchtkapsel @jwildeboer can you post any link or support on this? Or is just a AFAIK?

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@whatevs @fluchtkapsel He has already admitted that he was wrong. Maybe he can edit this toot to reflect that?