Damn it, #Mastodon subculture has a crap reputation and it’s honestly mostly deserved.
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@geos @gothodile my point is that Mastodon always is broadcasted as this ethical social network of networks that’s so nice and welcoming. There’s constant attacks on Bluesky and Big Social yet there’s plenty of issues of it’s own that Mastodon and it’s communities need to work on. To this point yes, Bluesky has been better for Black and Brown people, that’s not to say it’s been perfect cause that would be a big lie. But, it did go out its way to empower a Black women to help bolster its network, one of the popular custom feeds is by a Black dev and it’s called Black sky. Ultimately, I want people to hold themselves, their communities and the Mastodon team accountable to help foster an environment that is welcoming and safe for Black and Brown folks. Otherwise, stop pushing a false narrative
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@damon I have no personal experience with Hubzilla, but if https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_is_Hubzilla%3F#Quoting is current info then no, Hubzilla quotes are full text copies that the original poster has no control over. What's more, even if you delete or edit your original post, Hubzilla quotes will stick around with their original content. Different design goals from Twitter-style quote embeds, I assume.
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@matty @CloudyMrs @Sahkshi your response got lost in all of the activity. Thanks for this, of course they’d call a Black man angry for voicing my opinion and wanting improvement. How dare I have any criticisms!
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@damon @NaClKnight Honestly man, the few Black people around here have documented this exhaustively, anyone still asking for proof has got to be on some gaslighting trip
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@damon @gothodile
Bluesky sounds good, then. One thing you brought up is the HOA, and for you that may be annoying, but the only social network I have found that consistently asks people to add alt text is here. If it is not tagged I often can't tell what it is. What is nagging for you is essential to me. Without that, I am often left out. I guess we both found spots that work best for us. Peace!
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@geos @goth [email protected] You misunderstood. Alt-text doesn’t nag me. Black and Brown people being told to placed their lives experiences particularly with racism behind a content warning is an issue. Also, Bluesky is big on alt text. One my the followers I’m closest to requires is and mad accessibility advocacy and education his life’s work
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@damon @gothodile
Also, I get the anger. When people don't do simple things that would help me participate I do get mad. Usually, I just let it go, but when someone bitches about being told to use alt text I usually block them, because they clearly don't care about including me. -
@geos @gothodile where are you getting this issue with alt-text? I’m confused
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@cyberlyra @jalcine Thank you for saying that. I appreciate it.
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@damon @gothodile
Oh, the alt text is the thing I see most often when people complain about that they feel like it is an HOA. You can imagine I notice it more often because it is more relevant to me. -
@geos @gothodile ahh okay. Well, from what I’ve seen with the HOA fedi is more about telling people how to use their own accounts, having people CW their lived experiences. I like that this place and several of the decentralised social networks and platforms have started to place an emphasis on alt-text and on CW. But, CW should be a best practice and encouraged not something forced and especially not for people’s lived experiences.
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@fivetonsflax @damon @NaClKnight
I've been surprised at how much some accounts are not plugged in to all of this as you'd expect. I'm talking about accounts that "advocate" for the fediverse/mastoodn and talk about it's virtues and what can be done to grow the place.
Then it turns out of they've never encountered this narrative/story.
It's surprising to me because I've encountered it many times from multiple accounts but never sought it out, AFAICT, it's right here for those who listen.
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@damon Thats really sad to hear this, but I agree. My big issue here is that I am not sure what Mastodon (the software project) can do to change things, it looks like more of a Fediverse cultural issue than a Mastodon thing. I would be very happy to hear your ideas on what Mastodon (the software) should do to improve this, in a call if you want.
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@damon On the whole, I can't confirm your statement. There may be individual cases. But as I said, in my neighbourhood people make an effort to be welcoming and friendly.
Secondly. The laws of digital social networks also apply in Fediverse.
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@tunda You can confirm. You can speak with Black and Brown folks, you can search the web. If you want to call it individual cases that’s sad, that’s the same rhetoric that the radical right uses with mass shootings. But it makes sense because that stance either avoids accountability or at best narrows the scope significantly.
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@juergen_hubert Thank you for doing so. It’s frustrating as people have many valid reasons and some of those reasons are outside of Mastodon. It’s really inconsiderate that people can’t even see that and get all up in arms and super judgmental about it.
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@renchap I want to say I appreciate you reaching out. You could’ve simply continued to scroll and ignore my posts. I do want to be clear that I do not lay this all at the feet of the Mastodon software project but I do believe your team has a significant role to place as I would anyone that has considerable influence. I too would be more the happy to discuss this on a call. I appreciate your gesture and offer.
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@damon You are postulating the same radicalism that you are supposedly criticising. Wouldn't you like to come up with Nazi comparisons immediately? Good bye.