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We have a guest article today, co-written by @heidilifeldman and @tchambers! They make the case for political organizing in the #Fediverse, as opposed to corporate social media.
https://wedistribute.org/2024/09/the-revolution-will-be-federated/ -
@hello @heidilifeldman Thank you @news for publishing and highlighting this article!
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cc: also boosting this over to @fediversenews
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spla :senyera: :vim:replied to We Distribute last edited by
@hello @heidilifeldman @tchambers the fediverse is all projects interacting under the same protocol (ActivityPub) so Bluesky is not a fediverse one.
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Sean Tilleyreplied to spla :senyera: :vim: last edited by
@spla @hello @heidilifeldman @tchambers This is actually a matter of some debate. The Fediverse pre-dates the existence of ActivityPub, and includes platforms that speak other protocols, such as OStatus (legacy GNU Social), DFRN (Friendica) and Zot (Hubzilla and various spin-offs). Even though most of the network uses ActivityPub today, there has always been a mix of other things present.
Blurring the lines further is the existence of cross-protocol bridges to both ATproto (Bluesky) and Nostr. Not everyone on these other networks uses these bridges, but people on all three networks can cross-communicate.
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spla :senyera: :vim:replied to Sean Tilley last edited by
@deadsuperhero they must search a new word to that..."multiverse"?
You know, fediverse involves native federation.
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Sean Tilleyreplied to spla :senyera: :vim: last edited by
@spla @hello @heidilifeldman @tchambers I disagree. While interoperability has always been a big selling point for the Fediverse, the idea of one protocol being native above all others ignores the history of the space.
The Fediverse is a polyglot network. Most platforms share a common protocol for ease of communication, but many platforms have additional protocol support as well. Saying that the network is exclusively one protocol is like saying Earth only speaks one language.
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spla :senyera: :vim:replied to Sean Tilley last edited by
@deadsuperhero well, definition of "fediverse" in the wikipedia.
"The fediverse (commonly abbreviated to fedi) is a collection of social networking services that can communicate with each other (formally known as federation) using a common protocol. Users of different websites can send and receive status updates, multimedia files and other data across the network. The term fediverse is a portmanteau of "federation" and "universe".
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@spla @deadsuperhero you failed to continue reading. In that same definition: Some software still supports older federation protocols like OStatus, the Diaspora (stylized as diaspora) protocol and Zot as well. As of August 2024, diaspora is the only actively developed project classified under the original definition for fediverse that doesn’t support ActivityPub.
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@damon so current fediverse powered by ActivityPub stealed the term from Diaspora
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@spla @deadsuperhero The term predates ActivityPub. It’s not about stealing, it’s just as Sean said. Fediverse has always been multi protocol and bridges. People throwing in “ a common protocol as ActivityPub” doesn’t change reality nor history. Even in that definition it still included other protocols. Personally, there’s people that been here since the beginning that built incredible platforms & protocols their work shouldn’t be ignored nor disregarded just to fit someone’s agenda. The term was coined well before ActivityPub and should remain as such
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@damon bridges are not part of the fediverse because they don't federate by themselves, are just bridges to other protocols
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Tim Chambersreplied to spla :senyera: :vim: last edited by [email protected]
@spla @damon @deadsuperhero for this article: I defined fediverse as activitypub plus all networks that can bidirectionally communicate and interoperate or federate with it, via bridge or any means. To me that best fits the multi-protocol history of what most folks call “the Fediverse.”