… pronounce are removed. Everything is just so "smooth" and "clean" and "one-click checkout" optimised with gamified surfaces, that it has become hard to avoid.
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… pronounce are removed. Everything is just so "smooth" and "clean" and "one-click checkout" optimised with gamified surfaces, that it has become hard to avoid.
In a more serious vain, the conversation of criticising the term Fediverse for its usefulness has continued last week.
I was asked to write down my reasons for rejecting the word and have now done so. Maybe the reasoning presented there can also contribute to the conversation here:
jon ⚝ (@[email protected])
hi @[email protected] and @[email protected] Now that the discussion has settled a bit, I'm able to return here for more elaboration. I'm drawing in my criticism from previous conversations and personal experience. Let me start with the latter. At first, the -verse suffix is an anglism and only contributes to the hegemonial project of global harmonisation and hegemony of americanised culture. Native speakers or those that don't speak other languages may not be aware. Then there is the … 1/ @[email protected]
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smallcircles (Humanity Now 🕊)replied to jon ⚝ last edited by
A name, a logo, a symbol. And philosophers arguing for change. At this point we can only 'rename-by-emergence'. An alternative may go viral, or get there by slow & gradual adoption, or be enforced by power players. Until then we are stuck with what's there.
Meta has a fedi logo in which (presumably) they are the center of it all. May it be black-holed.
I have no issue with Fediverse. I think it will become like Web and Internet. Utterly generic and broad non-controversial category name.
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smallcircles (Humanity Now 🕊)replied to smallcircles (Humanity Now 🕊) last edited by
@yala but if a different name emerges, I am fine with that too. You make some good arguments for change. Now get some good alternative names out and about..
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smallcircles (Humanity Now 🕊)replied to smallcircles (Humanity Now 🕊) last edited by
@yala there's the 3-star fedi symbol being advocated (I don't have the unicode char at hand rn).
And this alternative logo to the 'pentagram' design: https://wizard.casa/objects/01910115-05ec-18fd-dfe9-04b6b588f9bf
In terms of names in the past I've thought of sticking with the goofy, affectionate ones. Stick with "toot" instead of "post". And maybe make #Fedi something different than Fediverse, namely the mythical 'ye olde fediverse' before corporate takeover started to set in.
Had a bit of fun, and yes it is silly too.. maybe
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jon ⚝replied to smallcircles (Humanity Now 🕊) last edited by
@smallcircles This icon is also still leaning in to the F.
What I am trying to say is probably, that the federation is not the primary quality of this self-regulating network, governed by protocols and adaptive moderation and contribution practice.
It is something new, which extends beyond our conventional understanding of what a federation means. Why we might be in need of a more fitting term.
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smallcircles (Humanity Now 🕊)replied to jon ⚝ last edited by
@yala you are spot on in the observation, yet..
No one thinks "I will go to the world wide web of hyperlinks and find me a hypertext I like". They just go to the Web, this abstract concept.
No one thinks "let's fire up the Internet Protocol Suite and spend some nice time TCP/IP'ing today". They internet.
When "Fediverse" becomes common enough (maybe already is), it becomes a concept on its own and not trigger other connotations.
Alternative names may still emerge at this stage, but its hard.