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I've been vaguely curious to try it. Are you joking or can you really not move your face easily? Cause I think I'd dislike that.

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I might be reading into it, but I thought the joke was that parents can react childishly when you change your appearance in a way they don't approve of. My mum keeps saying 'ooops I thought there was snot hanging from your nose but it's just you piercing', for example.

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Getting some botox is not "a lot of plastic surgery" tho

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ah that makes sense actually

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I read this as an Alzheimer's/dementia joke. And those are never funny.

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I'm a little bit happier since I trained myself not to give a shit what others do with their bodies. Especially aesthetic choices, regardless of how 'subtle' or 'excessive'. Takes a bit of mental practice to get there though.

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They need to make a piercing that looks like a blob of snot for people to wear around their parents.

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It's a toxin that temporarily paralyzes the areas where it's injected.

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I bet it exists. I'd check Etsy, but I'm too lazy.

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I have been using it for over 10 years for headache/migraine, so I get a way way higher dose than cosmetic, much more frequently, and with far more injection sites (60-80 depending how my neurologist is feeling and what shifted complaints I have). So like take that for what it’s worth.

It turns out after a long enough time (which, fun fact, super long-term use hasn’t really been well studied! Yay!), you actually do get some facial expressions back, but they are super muted. Mostly your face starts to employ other muscles that aren’t paralyzed. If you also get injections elsewhere for many years, like I do (neck and shoulders), the recruitment of other muscles can lead to some nasty rebound pain as the unparalyzed muscles desperately try, and fail, to make up for the loss, and knot the fuck out of themselves in the process. I’m dealing with this one now, going on 6 mths.

But for the most part, yes, you do lose a solid range of emotional expression, depending where you get the injections. Say goodbye to anger, surprise, confusion, and unfortunately compassion, among many other brow-heavy expressions (I decline injections in the constricting muscle between my eyebrows so I retain passable expressions of compassion confusion and anger, but surprise is gone entirely). For the first few weeks after getting it done, starting at about day 3 post-injection (every single time for at least a decade, I promise), you’ll feel how paralyzed your muscles are. It’s a weird feeling. You try to make a face and can’t, but you can feel the struggle. If you ever adjust to it, you still feel the first week or so, but significantly less.

I’ve declined to have any purely cosmetic injections, despite my neurologist making regular comments over the years about my lop-sided smile lines and crows feet (I use my face in asymmetrical ways; I like the wrinkles. It’s character.), so I don’t have the smile problem, tho I do get TMJ injections which make chewing tough stuff really difficult. I get enough of the shit injected already that I don’t really want more just to be “pretty”, but even with the current regimen, I get to look eternally youthful as I fall apart from the inside. Yay..

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Why do you assume I don't know that? The person I replied to said they think faces should have lines, that's clearly about aesthetics. Also, I believe in bodily autonomy, without caveats for toxins, as long as informed consent is given. I also believe in peoples right to use other toxins, like ethanol.

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Everyone copes differently.

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She (the mom) have alzheimer.

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I don’t know the area of your sweating, but you might want to also check out MiraDry for that.

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they meant more "a wide variety" rather than "a large quantity" and were likely using plastic surgery for a catch all for elective procedures for aesthetic purposes.

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She's also lacking the same purple skin tone as her mom, so I'm not sure what's up with that either.

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I know a couple people who get cosmetic Botox regularly, and it genuinely looks good on all of them. They got good doctors.

One person is a close friend who struggles a lot with their body and is anorexic. They do a lot of stuff to look good for their partner, including Botox. They are open with me about their horrible mental health issues.
I know plastic surgeons try to screen and reject people with body dysmorphia, but they do a shit job of it.

Using Botox is a sign that someone isn't accepting of their body, and refusing that aging is natural/alright. It's someone giving into the idea that you shouldn't look wrinkly which just feeds a weird unnecessary culture for everyone to want cosmetic surgery.

It's not as bad as the cultural normalization of steroids or ozempic, but I wish everybody would push past the need to please others and be happy with their bodies

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No, I'm joking - everything moves normally. But I work with my doc for a natural look (isn't that ironic!). I actually recommend it and VERY subtle lip injections (the stuff they inject into your lip make the not chap for like 9 months).

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Oh it totally is a sign someone wants to change their looks. I think it has to change at a societal level for you to get individuals to be less interested in it. And it is pervasive. For example, research shows that attractive people are more likely to get promoted into positions of leadership. But that's just one (albeit weird) place it happens.

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reject people with body dysmorphia

I thought that was the entire point of plastic surgery, if not for helping mild dysmorphia then what's the situation where someone would get plastic surgery?