AI needs to stop

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Anti-AI has become a weird crowd mentality cult.

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No, it couldn’t. That’s pure tech bro logic without any basis whatsoever in reality.

The machines already have these sensors. There’s simply nothing for “intelligence” to contribute to the process. It’s not enough for you to point to the presence of various sensors and claim it could do something with them when in reality this is already a solved problem. Additionally, the hypothetical AI-equipped machine itself will also be worse, using significantly more energy and being less reliable.

I say hypothetical, because the specific LG machine we’re talking about doesn’t even actually have any AI component. Yes I am aware of the difference between generative and analytical models; it has neither. Just normal sensors and algorithms that all modern washing machines have had for years. They threw the “AI” language on it to market it to people. You know, like a scam. Because the delightful thing about “AI” is you don’t need to provide any benefit to your marks, their imagination will do the work for you

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The Imperium of Man got this right.

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Everything else aside, you need to clean your washing machine. Cloths shouldn't be smelling like mildew after less than a day in it.

Modern washing machines are also pretty quiet.

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You had me in the first half, but then you lost me in the second half with the false claim of stolen material. There is no such material inside the AI, just the ideas that can be extracted from such material. People hate their ideas being taken by others but this happens all the time, even by the people that claim that is why they do not like AI. It's somewhat of a rite of passage for your work to become so liked by others that they take your ideas, and every artist or creative person at that point has to swallow the tough pill that their ideas are not their property, even when their way of expressing them is. The alternative would be dystopian since the same companies we all hate, that abuse current genAI as well, would hold the rights to every idea possible.

If you publicize your work, your ideas being ripped from it is an inevitability. People learn from the works they see and some of them try to understand why certain works are so interesting, extracting the ideas that do just that, and that is what AI does as well. If you hate AI for this, you must also hate pretty much all creative people for doing the exact same thing. There's even a famous quote for that before AI was even a thing. "Good artists copy, great artists steal."

I'd argue that the abuse of AI to (consider) replacing artists and other working creatives, spreading of misinformation, simplifying of scams, wasting of resources by using AI where it doesn't belong, and any other unethical means to use AI are far worse than it tapping into the same freedom we all already enjoy. People actually using AI for good means will not be pumping out cheap AI slop, but are instead weaving it into their process to the point it is not even clear AI was used at the end. They are not the same and should not be confused.

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A notification that your load is done is actually convenient. It's typically also paired with some sensors that can let you know if you need more detergent or to run a cleaning cycle on the washer.
Mine also lets you set the wash parameters via the app if you want, which is helpful for people who benefit from the accessibility features of the phone. Difficult to adjust the font size or contrast on a washing machine, or hear it's chime if you have hearing problems.

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I see ai actually in anything other than promo material.

My brother have you been in a deep slumber for the past two years? Windows is filled with AI, so is Microsoft Office, Google search results, Gmail and Docs, the Android assistant was replaced by Gemini, Canva is filled with AI, all Adobe products have AI image generation, Samsung's S24 line is exactly the same as the S23 but with AI slapped in, you go to a subway station and half of the ads are made with AI with atrocious teeth, fast food drive thru machines are now AI, pretty much any online customer support is an embedded version of ChatGPT. Entire news sites and blogs have the posts generated by AI - things got so bad YouTube videos with millions of views in the true crime genre were telling fake stories created by AI, with images and narration generated by AI, and the comments were mostly AI.

And don't get me started on Reddit, if you mention ANY software now you get about 10 immediate replies from bots that say some generic thing like "That's a great question, I like using insert website AI for this as it works really well and is super affordable!".

You're either extremely bad at noticing AI usage - in which case god bless your soul but for the love of all that's holy please start trying to recognize it - or you haven't been online in a long time.

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It's in DuckDuckGo
It's in Google search
It pops up on tons of websites as a chat bot
It's crowbarred into Windows now
It's Apple Intelligence which is baked into iOS 18 (disabling it gave me 20-25% of my battery back)
It's in Arc browser (easily disabled)

If you're able to avoid it altogether and not be forced to constantly disable it everywhere, I commend whatever you're doing. I see it scattered everywhere and I consider myself a niche user that runs their own Lemmy instance and doesn't actively use any of the big social networks.

People are complaining because it's permeating everything while offering little to no value to the end user. The massive divide has arrived where the value to the shareholders is all that matters, and the tech companies doing it aren't even remotely thinking about the user experience or benefit. I've been a dev in tech for 18+ years and I've never seen the field this desperate and stagnant when it comes to good ideas.

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Those features are literally unrelated to AI, just so you know. It’s comparing sensor outputs to a table. Like all modern laundry machines. The inclusion of “AI” on the label is purely to take advantage of people like you who instantly believe whatever they’re told, even of it’s as outlandish as “your laundry has been optimized” lol

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Everything else aside, you need to clean your washing machine. Cloths shouldn’t be smelling like mildew after less than a day in it.

A bit of exaggeration to make a point.

Modern washing machines are also pretty quiet.

Not when they're a room away from the master bedroom. Having it start up in the middle of the night would be either annoying, terrifying, or both.

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Strangely, that is a lot of who is complaining. It was a Faustian bargin: draw furry porn and earn money but never be allowed to use your art in a professional sense ever again.

Then AI art came and replaced them, so it became loose-loose.

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Issue is, that 8 hours people spend in "real" jobs are a big hindrance, and could be spent on doing the art instead, and most of those ghouls now want us to do overtime for the very basics. Worst case scenario, it'll be a creativity drought, with idea guys taking up the place of real artists by using generative AI. Best case scenario is AI boom totally collapsing, all commercial models become expensive to use. Seeing where the next Trump administration will take us, it's second gilded age + heavy censorship + potential deregulation around AI.

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so that specific LG machine can detect the water hardness, what fabrics are used in the clothes it should launder, what detergents are available?

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Like others mentioned this one actually makes sense. Letting you know your washing is done so you can move it to the drier and letting you know its dry already so you can fold it is actually super helpful. I studied at an uni that had a connected laundry room so I didnt have to go all the way there to check if the machine was done with my laundry.

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I don't know where else you could find enough work to sustain yourself other than furry porn and hentai before Ai. Post Ai, even that is gone.

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My home is already plenty dumb enough without me exerting that level of control.

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Do you have an example of an AI system being deployed to do these things or is it, as I said, pure hypothetical tech bro logic?

But yeah it basically squirts some water in at the top, then analyzes the water that reaches the bottom (and how much) to infer the fabric types. That same information is then considered when dispensing detergent and fabric softener. Simple sensors and tables

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that's pretty cool then.

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It already sings a song for 30 seconds when the load is done. I understand a notification at a laundromat, but what good is that really in your home?

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I think we're running out of advancements that make life better, now all technology does is make production cheaper.