If everybody agrees with you then that's a pretty good sign that you are wrong.

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Most of us just want to fit in, and believe what everybody believes.

Coming to your beliefs this way is not actually intelligent. We don't do it consciously. It's just tribalism or herding instinct or whatever.

So if everybody agrees with you then that's a pretty good sign that you are wrong.

JackGreenEarth

Sometimes most people are right. Sometimes most people are wrong. Come to your own conclusions as independently as possible from what other people think. It's just as much a fallacy to assume the majority of people are wrong as to assume they are right.

And some things aren't even objectively true or false, they are just personal preferences or morals.

Sabre363

This is a little concept known as conformity, and it's a pretty big and interesting part of sociology

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But independent thinking contradicts my 1000000 years of genetically programmed tribal instinct. You're asking a lot.

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Being contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian doesn’t make one interesting

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Most people agree that puppies and kittens are cute.

oni

I'm a Yakuza game series fan, so, a guy who I know asked what do I think about the live action series of Amazon Prime. I said that isn't going to get the same reception as other live action series, so this mf agreed with me with no hesitation. I got mad, no because he was trying to "giving me the reason" but he was trying to lick my boots.

Rhynoplaz

Things I must be wrong about because everyone agrees:

Flapping my arms won't cause me to fly.

I can't breathe underwater.

Washing hands prevents disease.

Eating food gives us energy.

Yesterday was Christmas.

If only everyone was as smart as you.

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Yes.

But to elaborate my point.

The path of conformity and the path of reason are utterly different things. Therefore they lead to utterly different ends. Therefore if you find yourself in agreement with everybody, in all probability you have arrived at that latter end and you didn't get there via reason.

(Ok so I said it twice now.)

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Most people think the letter "A" is the first letter of the English alphabet.

PorradaVFR

It depends vastly on the subject, audience and source of information.

I’m not going to disagree with a room of experts aligned on a conclusion based on data and verified study. Actual knowledge is in fact knowledge and a contrarian opinion, no matter how passionately expressed, is not equivalent to it.

Being contrarian solely to go against the popular position is laughably simplistic.

Everyone knows this.

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A contrarian isn’t one who always objects — that’s a confirmist of a different sort. A contrarian reasons independently, from the ground up, and resists pressure to conform.

Naval Ravikant

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The opposite doesn't mean you're right either.

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Critical thinking skills are required, to really know if you're right or wrong. Just going by what is common and doing the opposite, or doing what is common, is not enough.

The entire scientific method is designed so that people can verify if they are wrong or right, through falsifiable hypotheses, simply debating and using rhetoric to try to decide truth often leads to incorrect conclusions, if not outright falsehoods. However, the burden of proof is on the person with the new theory, not everybody else to prove the new theory is wrong

Sabre363

Not contradicting anything you said or trying to make an argument, just thought it would be a cool thing to share and let people learn about.

But if you do want some kind of argument, then I would say that while you are not wrong here, conformity has basically nothing to do with drawing reasonable conclusions and that really isn't it's purpose. Conformity is almost more of a defense mechanism (which can go wrong rather easily, hence this discussion) meant to keep us comfortable and prevent accidentally painting a social target on our own backs. It's when conformity is conflated with logical reasoning that we start to get problems.

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That’s just Big Cute propaganda. The puppy-kitten industrial complex has brainwashed us all. Have you even considered that tarantulas and anglerfish might be the true standard of cuteness?

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The social target, you get used to it.

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Few people know that runes were first

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You make it sound quite linear. There are more than 2 ends so there isn't "that other end". Your social group might not see birds as dinosaurs but that doesn't make them governmental drones either

socsa

People who don't understand science don't get this. When science changes it doesn't mean the previous ideas were "wrong" - it usually just means that the framework and the data it is built around was incomplete or imprecise. That's the entire premise of empiricism, and why there are differences between how theory, fact and axiom are handled.

Far too many people believe that the history of overturned consensus suggests that modern consensus is also "wrong" when it was the empiricist framework which discovered both "truths" in the first place.