what are we using that isn't proton.me now
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
@kissane Self-hosted email, can't trust no one these days
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
@kissane asked about this a while back, responses might yield some insights, I tried to keep the OP up to date, but couldn’t vet everything.
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@kissane asked about this a while back, responses might yield some insights, I tried to keep the OP up to date, but couldn’t vet everything.
@crypticcelery ty!
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
@kissane Is this about this? Or is there some other reason we are switching?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
@kissane I'm on proton now, but wanted to make a tuta account, got told it's a "honeypot" and not secure at all
Now completely at loss, sitting half on google (only the spam now, mostly), half on proton lol and looking up alternatives every other day...
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@kissane Is this about this? Or is there some other reason we are switching?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/
@neuralgraffiti Yeah just that whole weird thing. I'm not even on proton rn or I'd probably stay put, but I feel like maybe given ~the everything~ it's not the most ideal place to move to.
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@kissane I'm on proton now, but wanted to make a tuta account, got told it's a "honeypot" and not secure at all
Now completely at loss, sitting half on google (only the spam now, mostly), half on proton lol and looking up alternatives every other day...
@sahqon got told by whom?
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
@kissane For mail in general or some sort of privacy-focused product? I’ve been a customer of Fastmail for about two decades if you count back to Pobox who they bought. Price is fair and every one of my support interactions - even when they were my weird edge cases - have been quick and positive.
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@kissane For mail in general or some sort of privacy-focused product? I’ve been a customer of Fastmail for about two decades if you count back to Pobox who they bought. Price is fair and every one of my support interactions - even when they were my weird edge cases - have been quick and positive.
@donw Just email, for me. And aw man, Pobox. I loved them.
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@sahqon got told by whom?
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@neuralgraffiti Yeah just that whole weird thing. I'm not even on proton rn or I'd probably stay put, but I feel like maybe given ~the everything~ it's not the most ideal place to move to.
@kissane Good to know, thanks. I'm not either, but I'm still on a grandfathered-in Google Apps for Your Domain. I provide it for a bunch of non-technical extended family too, so while I'm constantly kind of considering switching it up, the potential disruption always brings me up short.
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
I went from self hosting to being paid to administer systems for others.
I had hoped users would have moved past email already, but nope. Users still use fax machines.
I used to fight for the users.
Now I am extremely tired that users have been resting on their laurels for decades, never taking up the slack and never really appreciating how much SysOps (paid or unpaid) were doing for them.
I still get asked to take out the trash and fix toilets.
Mind you: trash cans I didn't fill and toilets I didn't break.
I already know how poorly I am treated.
Do the users understand how much they are asking of those who were running their systems ethically? I don't think they do.
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@kissane Good to know, thanks. I'm not either, but I'm still on a grandfathered-in Google Apps for Your Domain. I provide it for a bunch of non-technical extended family too, so while I'm constantly kind of considering switching it up, the potential disruption always brings me up short.
@neuralgraffiti Yeah, I'm way into the Google infra inertia hole. I probably need a secure sidechannel, though.
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
@kissane I wish I knew
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
@kissane OK. Hot take.
I'm staying with Proton. I only recently joined. It's not perfect, and the CEO is an idiot.
But I am not a self-hosting guy, and everything else also has downsides.
The least-worst solution for me right now is a Swiss company that has at least some form of accountability.
You want 100% secure comms? Then I don't think email is for you anyway.
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what are we using that isn't proton.me now
edit: post whatever you want but "self host" is never ever going to be me, I have seen too much
@kissane I've used Mailbox.org and Fastmail and both were fine.
