"You can’t say it was a fluke.
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"You can’t say it was a fluke. If in 2016, Donald Trump’s novelty, combined with his loss of the popular vote, allowed liberals to retain a bit of plausible deniability about what his presidential win meant about America, this time, there is no such comfort."
~ Moira Donegan
#Trump #Republicans #fascism #cruelty #patriarchy #misogyny #women #gender
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"Many postmortems of last week’s election have tried to preserve the notion that Trump’s voter’s did not endorse him and his vision – that they know not what they do. This is dishonest, and a bit patronizing toward Trump’s supporters. Trump’s voters, for the most part, know exactly what he is, and what voting for him means. They are not ignorant or mistaken about him. They endorse him and what he is."
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by [email protected]
"A large part of what a majority of Americans voted for last week was the Trump campaign’s virulent misogyny. ...
Much of the pre-election coverage of the gender dynamics of Trump’s campaign has disappeared in the days following the election, and perhaps this unpleasant reality is why: most Americans voted for a man they have every reason to believe is a rapist. For some of them, at least, that was not a liability, but an asset."
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Lucius Annaeus Senecareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Le Monde ran a great front-page editorial that agrees with your analysis. It's entitled "La fin d'un monde américain" (the end of an American world). It points out that unlike 2016, Trump voters knew exactly who and what they were voting for. Therefore, the US can no longer claim to be a global model for democracy. I generally agree that they embraced cruelty, racism, misogyny, etc. What they may not understand is the economic and environmental effects of their vote on their own lives -
William Lindsey :toad:replied to Lucius Annaeus Seneca last edited by
@Annaeus Thank you for pointing me to the Le Monde editorial. I'll look for it. Note that the analysis above isn't mine but Moira Donegan's.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Thanks to Lucius Annaeus Seneca (see his comment below) for pointing me to Le Monde's editorial statement on Trump's election, which, as he says, agrees with Moira Donegan when she says American voters knew exactly what they were voting for when they chose Trump. My rough translation of the opening of the editorial (linked below):
"This time, they chose knowing exactly what they were choosing."
https://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2024/11/06/la-fin-d-un-monde-americain_6379283_3232.html
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"In 2016, when they entrusted the White House to him the first time, American voters were in the dark about what a Trump presidency would look like, and took a leap in the dark. In 2024, the situation is different: not only did those voting Republican know their candidate full well, even down to the most shameful details, but he's more radical than he was eight years ago. Those voting Trump know what he portends and they want it back."
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Danetteb 🕊️🐦🔥⚓️🕯️🪷replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy yes I just wrote a long thread about this yesterday. Trump is who he is. He doesn’t hide it. That’s what they like about him.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Danetteb 🕊️🐦🔥⚓️🕯️🪷 last edited by
@Danetteb Thank you. I look forward to reading your thread. Will look for it now.