If you hate protesters blocking roads in the name of taking immediate #ClimateAction, you’re going to really hate how Climate Change itself blocks roads.
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@rick1960 sounds like there were fires about 10 years ago in the foothills to the East where the rains were strongest yesterday. It may have contributed to the incredible speed of the flood.
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@JohnJBurnsIII @chris I wonder if there is anything like NOAA Atlas 14 for the EU / Spain?
I'm starting to think recurrence interval would be a good way to express, uh, 'unprecedentedness', without having to convert metric/US systems...
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@chris Hi Chris! Just a small correction, the name of the town is Sedavi. Great thread!
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@dave @JohnJBurnsIII I am sure there is but I'm not familiar with how to get to the information.
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@ilsk see my replies in the thread, all the news articles with the original photos are there.
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@danigjz ah! Thank you. Sorry about the typo.
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@chris Those picturesque European cities with narrow, paved roads, are particularly great at funnelling water through instead of away from things. Pretty scary.
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@CStamp the irony is there is an 4 lane highway on either side the river that flooded. Narrow and wide, the river takes all!
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@ArchaeoIain I learned this today! Thank you! There are a few places in the world that have tried to do this (Winnipeg, Canada is another). It generally just moves the problem elsewhere. I don't know if it is fair at all to say this outcome is better than what might have been if the river had not been rerouted. We'll never really know.
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
“With every fraction of a degree of fossil fuel warming, the atmosphere can hold more moisture, leading to heavier bursts of rainfall,” said Dr Friederike Otto, from Imperial College London, who leads an international group of scientists who try to understand the role that warming plays in these type of events.
“No doubt about it, these explosive downpours were intensified by climate change.”
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Hey @GottaLaff! You know how Project 2025 proposes to get rid of things like the NOAA and FEMA? Well the left-wing government in the Valencia region got replaced last year with a right wing government and lo-and-behold:
"Valencia’s regional government has also been forced to defend its decision to scrap the Valencia Emergency Unit, which had been set up by the previous government to tackle natural disasters such as flooding and wildfires.”
Spain flood death toll expected to rise as dozens missing
Spain is enduring its worst flooding disaster in decades, with at least 95 people dead and dozens more missing.
(www.bbc.com)
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@chris @GottaLaff THIS is what happens when you vote climate-change deniers into office. You can't outbuild or outrun the coming disasters, people. FIX IT NOW or prepare to die. There's no middle ground here.
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@chris @GottaLaff
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Are any estimates yet of the cost to rebuild? Looks like 100s of millions if not billions.
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@SomeGadgetGuy @GottaLaff I have had a few people say the same thing. It's beyond comprehension for many... this is the new world we are in.
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@sleepy62 @GottaLaff It looks as though entire roadways and bridges were swept away in parts to the East of the City closer to the mountains. But I can't see it be under billions of Euros.
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Sine-Nomine🇵🇸Free Palestine🇵🇸replied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
well, if dickheads get voted in...They're gonna do dickheaded things
I so hope america chooses the right person for #Potus2024
Now, as a foreigner , i don't want to be seen to be "taking sides" but...PLEASE! FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING!
PLEASE!
PICK!
#KamalaHarris2024Thank you, your normal broadcast will now continue...
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That's because the conservatives know best. No reason to have actual experts on the subject on hand.
In fact this is a replay of 2017, when in one of his first acts, the
disbanded the pandemic response team that had been assembled by Obama / Biden. That team would have come in handy in 2019-2020.
