Proton uses a trustless architecture.
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@protonprivacy yeah, but your CEO has been making statements in support of a right-wing authoritarian government, so…?
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@thisismissem @protonprivacy Definitely sucky but the upside is that the mathematical assurance applies universally.
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@thisismissem @protonprivacy please Proton, stay neutral... and thanks for being an alternative for those who value privacy
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@schykle @protonprivacy yeah, unless of cause they happen to reneg on that mathematical assurance and suddenly start storing unencrypted emails because it's politically expendient for them to do so.
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@rrapio @protonprivacy that's the thing, they haven't stayed neutral, and that's the concerning thing.
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@thisismissem @protonprivacy yes, I know... I'm concerned too. I'm asking them to review their stance and stay neutral from now on.
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Source, please...?
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@rrapio @protonprivacy yeah, definitely disappointing to see as a business customer, where my business is one that angers the right-wing conservative types.
Has me thinking about if I need to migrate away.
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@Woland @protonprivacy google it. There's plenty of articles.
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@thisismissem @protonprivacy So why does that matter? Proton products are great. I stand behind Proton products. I don't accept the cancel culture these days. Accept that there will always be people you don't like or accept. The world will never be at peace. Hate will always be there. It is something that will never change. Same thing with Elon Musk drama. People would rather not ride their Tesla anymore because of Elon. Is the Tesla as a product bad? #stopcancelculture
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Both Proton & our CEO stand against authoritarianism; check out this article for more info: https://www.compiler.news/proton-vpn-venezuela-russia/
Proton is not controlled by any individual, but by the non-profit Proton Foundation, which is based in Switzerland and politically neutral.
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@protonprivacy @thisismissem Your politically neutral foundation is standing behind a CEO who made a show of support for a guy who's clear intent is to rule as an authoritarian white supremacist dictator, doubled down on the official Proton social feeds and then created a usename on Reddit with a white supremacist hate symbol embedded as the username. When informed of this, he left it up on public display.
I've seen no evidence the Foundation has ever held Proton AG to account on any matter.
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@yeechie @protonprivacy this isn't cancel culture, this is me saying:
As a business customer of proton, where my company is a potential target of policies from the US Government (FOSTA/SESTA and friends), it gives me great concern to see their CEO cosying up to the people who wish my business to not exist.
I picked proton because it guaranteed me privacy, but I worry that this new relationship to the new US president could put my company / clients at risk.
It's great to say "we stand for this" and that "we're politically neutral", but the actions of the CEO have clearly demostrated that may not be the case going forwards.
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Yeah really. "Oops, I should have posted support for the authoritarian white supremacist from my personal account not the corporate account" isn't the answer people are looking for, and neither "I know it's a fascist dogwhistle but am not changing it".
@protonprivacy you as a foundation and as a company really need to be treating this as an existential crisis. At this point there is absolutely no reason for anybody to trust you. What are you going to do to try to change that?
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@thenexusofprivacy @protonprivacy @Infoseepage @thisismissem I don't think an auspicious Chinese symbol is a hill worth dying on. There are many symbols which might be offensive to someone from the West. And honestly, even I didn't know about that one, if it was a swastika, it'd be more obvious.
I don't like spoiling cultural symbols just because an unsavory type (screw them) used it.
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It really is too bad when symbols get soiled because Nazis use them -- and I can certainly believe that @protonprivacy's CEO didn't realize that he had accidentally chosen a Nazi dogwhistle as part of his username. But, it is in fact a Nazi dogwhistle.
So while I can certainly see why he doesn't want to change it or feel like he should have to, it makes it a lot harder for Proton to recover trust when their CEO is saying that he doesn't care whether or not people think he's signalling support for Nazis.
