the Trump agenda on what happens regarding the internet: the overriding principle is ending the “online censorship regime”.
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the other clear agenda item there is to hamper/end research on mis- and disinformation
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@tinkel ? I am unclear what parallels you see between Mastodon and the incoming US governments vision for the internet
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@tinkel or are you saying Mastodon too will be affected by these incoming rules? (e.g., aspects of defederation might effectively become illegal by US standards)
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the Trump internet agenda looks to be setting the US on a collision course with the EU that I’m not sure US tech companies are going to be able to square….
it seems like it will come to matter even more that Mastodon is not US based, but rather an EU company
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@UlrikeHahn So this is important: https://european-alternatives.eu/alternatives-to
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@UlrikeHahn Sounds like a way to protect the "big online platforms" from possible competitors also. Increase the barrier to entry by making moderation onerous and expensive.
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Not from the legal perspective. Mastodon should do the same because it's right thing to do.
Despite Trump's overall motives, the fifth part about digital due process you quote seems sensible and needed even places like Mastodon.
Not just from rights and civility perspective but from usability perspective.
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@chema I think we saw the dress rehearsal with the Twitter files and the subsequent March 2023 hearings of Representative Jim Jordan’s “Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government”
My Encounter With the Fantasy-Industrial Complex
Online conspiracy theorists turned me into “CIA Renee.”
The Atlantic (www.theatlantic.com)
…and the subsequent voluntary dismantling or replacement of misinformation and disinformation tools on US platforms such as Facebook
Meta Is Getting Rid of CrowdTangle—and Its Replacement Isn’t as Transparent or Accessible
The social media monitoring tool, which has been used to track misinformation, is set to disappear as elections take place worldwide
Columbia Journalism Review (www.cjr.org)
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@tinkel what is “the right thing to do” in your view here, I still don’t understand
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"To be informed when you are being throttled, shadow banned or otherwise restricted no matter what name they use."
That's a right thing to do in any platform.
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@tinkel it depends on why the account is being restricted, I would say, no? and it depends on what ‘restricted’ actually means and what resources are available, no?
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@UlrikeHahn
Everything depends, you must be more specific.In this case, the absolute minimum you can expect is automatic notification that you are limited, so that people don't have to waste time in confusion and can switch servers or something.
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@tinkel “you can expect” from whom? the volunteer admin running your server? the volunteer admins running the *other* servers that have blocked yours?
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@tinkel you said above that you see this: @mathstodon.xyz site says for me "Moderated servers: This information has not been made available on this server"
what is it, above and beyond this automated notification, that you would like to see in place?
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I would like to see limiting being in effect before commenting.
I discovered limiting when someone who uses @mathstodon.xyz notified me when I was having discussion in comments. They saw only one part of discussion. This has been going on months. I follow many people there.
The information about banned and limited servers is in https://mathstodon.xyz/about page and I figured it out accidentally.
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@tinkel and how would you implement that realistically?
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@tinkel tbh, this might better be a separate thread. I think it’s taking us really off topic from my perspective.
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@UlrikeHahn
I don't know enough mastodon protocol to say. It may be impossible in the protocol design.Blocking, distorting or breaking communication due to lack of resources or protocol design is still failure in usability and fairness.
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@tinkel blocking, distorting, and breaking communication (aka content moderation) is also essential to having any meaningful discourse at all.
There aren’t any easy solutions here….
