"It’s wild to me that Trump’s fascism is only now breaking through as a major news story. Trump’s ideology has been evident from the start, and in every election cycle, his closing argument always comes down to white supremacy, fascism, hate, and white...

[vaniaji@toad.social]

@wdlindsy So sorry pigs…we know you have souls…not sure about the convicted felon and rapist.

[mysturji@mastodonapp.uk]

@wdlindsy likewise UK tories. But still not a story.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Shebeencounter I'm unclear as to what in William Kristol's statement you object to.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

"The former president*’s speech was hate radio on scan. He would stick to the teleprompter that he otherwise denied he was using, and then go off on familiar flights of fancy. It was mendacity surrendered to foul, endless cliche, embedded in our politics for the foreseeable future. It was in fact not the banality of evil, but, rather, the evil of banality. The lesser of two evils is still evil."

~ Charles Pierce

#Trump #fascism #hate #MadisonSquareGarden
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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a62735267/trump-msg-rally/

[shebeencounter@mastodon.world]

@wdlindsy Why would I consume anything this man has to offer?

He should be in prison where people like you and I could safely ignore his musings on anything. He's a world-historical ghoul. Of what value does his discredited, broken-clock perspective have?

The Iraq War was obviously a very easy thing for you to wash your hands of, wasn't it? I wonder why that is. Especially since you're trying to build a better world. Which, btw, is something Mr. Kristol has no interest in. Quite the opposite.

[aidanmurphy@mastodon.ie]

@wdlindsy Echoing the late October shift in Catholic and Irish voters in the 1884 election, this may be #Trump 's 'rum, Romanism, and rebellion' moment.

[jamesbazan@mastodon.coffee]

@wdlindsy Three days earlier, Trump himself said "We're a dumping ground. We're like a -- we're like a garbage can for the world."
That's what they think of everyone not sufficiently "White" according to their racial ideology.

[caffeinatedbookdragon@nerdculture.de]

@wdlindsy

I wonder about that part, that he knows that they know it's a Nazi show. Many of us on the outside have seen the parallels between MSG in 2024 & the 1939 German-American Bund rally. But I wonder how much his supporters see it.

He DID brag about loving "the uneducated". Maybe it's me grasping at straws, but as an empath, I can't understand folks cheering on blatant hatred unless they were thoroughly ignorant & just needed an education.

But some of how they react in on the spot interviews with reporters on the street reminds me of the book "It Can't Happen Here" & the description of Windrip's speeches: the crowd was energized, hopeful, happy... but they couldn't remember a damned thing that was said when it was all over & they went home.

It's definitely the theatrics; Trump uses his celebrity & crudeness & knows they won't think too deeply about anything he says & will still vote for him because he made them feel what they wanted to feel. Trump's own "useful idiots".

[bartvdpoel@mastodon.green]

@wdlindsy "Made racist or derogatory remarks about Latinos generally, African Americans, Palestinians and Jews." Who says these guys aren't inclusive!

[samiamsam@mastodon.social]

@wdlindsy

rick scott peed himself when his people told him how many Puerto Ricans live in FL so you know it is really really really bad

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@samiamsam Indeed. And I love the response of @Remittancegirl: Excuse me while I schadenfreude a bit.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@bartvdpoel Inclusive, indeed!

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@CaffeinatedBookDragon I do think Trump is very aware of the parallels between his movement (and ideas) and the Nazi movement in Germany. I think it's no accident he repeatedly cites or echoes Hitler. His first (? — I have trouble keeping them all straight) wife said he kept a copy of Mein Kampf beside his bed. I think he deliberately chose Madison Square Garden as a venue to evoke memories of the huge Nazi rally held there in the 1930s.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@JamesBazan Well-noted. A good point to make.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@AidanMurphy May it be so. I feel quite sure my Irish immigrant great-grandmother and her brother voted Democratic in that election.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Shebeencounter "Why would I consume anything this man has to offer?"

Because politics is the art of the possible and imperfect and not the pure, in which we sometimes band together with others who share our determination to shove back a serious threat to the body politic such as fascism — though we don't share the same worldviews or thoughts about many matters.

/1

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Shebeencounter If I went through commentary daily and weeded out all the people who disappoint me on ideological grounds, I'd be listening to very few people. And in the process, I'd often miss valuable commentary by people with whom I very much disagree for many reasons, but who share my determination to push back a serious lethal threat to the world in the form of Trump's fascism.

/2

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@mysturji You're right.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Vaniaji I hope along with you — though I suspect that, if Trump does lose (and I'm not sure he will), we will still have a long uphill climb to get out of this pit into which nearly half of our population have chosen to drive all of us.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Myerman May it be so.