Luigi Mangione prosecutors have a jury problem: "So much sympathy"
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@lashman Jury nullification.
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@lashman: They're going to find it *really* difficult to find a jury without at least one person who's been fucked over by a health insurance company.
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Darth Moose Shark (DECT 98599)replied to RAK last edited by
@raktheundead @lashman First all-CEO jury
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lashmanreplied to Darth Moose Shark (DECT 98599) last edited by
@grrrr_shark @raktheundead see, i know you're joking, but ...
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Only the super rich are safe from the evils of American healthcare.
I had a fried whose husband was an actor. Not super famous but big enough to be very well off. Dude got cancer and it almost bankrupted them. Predictably there were huge fights with insurance over treatment costs. Just evil to damage people at the scariest moments of their life.
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@ikanreed @CanadianCrone @lashman
They will stack this one as well. It's real funny how "a jury of your peers" has come to mean "a jury specifically selected to be unsympathetic to the victim", the victim being everyone fucked over by US health insurance companies in this case.
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Gilbert Pilzreplied to lashman last edited by [email protected]
@lashman To anyone for whom this may be relevant: there are many forms of protest. With some forms the most important thing is to inform as many people as possible that you are protesting and why. JURY NULLIFICATION IS THE OPPOSITE OF THIS. Effective jury nullification requires you to keep your mouth shut about what you are doing and why. No one can see inside your head and you don't have to be honest about why you are voting "innocent". Any hint of what you are up to will be used to undo it.
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Lazarou Monkey Terror ๐๐๐replied to Joykill last edited by
@joykill @ikanreed @CanadianCrone @lashman yeah that never rides well with me either, especially with big cases that effect a lot of people like this.
Because I can't think of anybody on Earth, except the Rich, who would convict this guy.
I'm in the UK, have the NHS and I'm celebrating Luigi's regrettably necessary act.
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Court Cantrell will not complyreplied to Space Wrangler last edited by
@space_wrangler @lashman I have several chronic health conditions. Nothing as major as cancer -- but UHC's horrible health"care" plans are the direct reason we have zero savings.
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@lashman I think this will be a very interesting case. Letโs see how it unfolds.
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MugsysRapSheet ๐ฉ๐๐replied to lashman last edited by
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If I were on the Prosecution Team of the #UnitedHealthcare CEO #shooter, I'd be pointing out that he wasn't even a UHC customer, and used 3D printed gun. -
@lashman He could screw himself with attitude if heโs not careful. Otherwise, jury nullification will be hard for the prosecution to defeat.
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@lashman Easy fix : make a jury of oligarchs so they will not sympathize ...
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@lashman The one question no one in the law enforcement or insurance industries (and they are both industries) has been able to answer is this: What is the difference between murder with a gun and murder by claim denial?
In my mind, there is no difference except the CEO's aren't being arrested and charged.
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Bruno Mars Management Accountreplied to lashman last edited by
@lashman if he is not guilty then sympathy can be shown bit if he is guilty I don't see any reason for sympathy
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@lashman isn't jury nullification how abortions got decriminalized in canada?
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@lashman it is the neo French Revolution. Nobody should profit so much over the backs over ill people. They are demonic.
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@lashman it boggles the mind that the take away from all that seems to be โCEOs have it tough and need special treatmentโ, rather than โtheyโre going to run us all through the guillotine unless we make deep systemic changes.โ
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@lashman They might have to anonymize the victim and the suspect for this trial. "A man attending a conference was shot and killed by a black clad and masked assailant." It makes you wonder how impartial our court system can be, or how impartial it should be. I'm guessing a lot of black defendants would not be found guilty if justice was really blind like this.