The warning bell keeps clanging.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Holger Fiallo last edited by
@HolgerFiallo I've long thought that many of those who claim to be undecided are really Republican voters too ashamed to say so openly.
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@Trez13 Yes, Niemoller, anyone? for sure. I agree that many people who effectively vote fascist are not well-informed about what the term means or about the history of fascism.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Adrian Legg last edited by
@adrianlegg And the UK has stepped up to the plate to combat all of that, do you mean?
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Holger Fialloreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy In the CNN hall town one of them was democrat. She was more worry about the poor Palestinian people than those in the US. Do not give me wrong I feel for them but they elected hamas in 2007 knowing what they plan for Israel. We need to focus on us before helping others. Long live the Constitution.
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Cat Herder π π½ πΊπ²replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
I read a verbatim transcript of one of his rallies in 2016.
I did not believe anyone that was a competent reader would ever vote for him.
He wasn't shocking anymore after a year; the people that fell for his schtick were the ones that shocked me.
I haven't spoken to those I knew that voted for him since that election.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Holger Fiallo last edited by
@HolgerFiallo I do not see Hamas and the Palestinian people as synonymous with each other, and do not think that the atrocious violence being visited on the Palestinians is in any way justified by their political history or choices. I also see the violence Hamas perpetrated against Israelis a year ago as atrocious β but don't think a response of even more horrific violence in any way moves toward a just, humane solution to the problems of the region.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Cat Herder π π½ πΊπ² last edited by
@CatHerder I'm with you. From the outset, I've asked myself how anyone could listen to the man and vote for him. I can only conclude, as you do, that they and I see the world very differently.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Boots Chantilly last edited by
@BootsChantilly @MiriShuli Same here.
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David Miller πΊπΈ π½replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy it's right to sound the alarm, we just need to temper our expectations based on the evidence we've already seen.
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Ivey Janette McClellandreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy No, they're cheering Soon-Shiong. He too is right-wing conservative.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Ivey Janette McClelland last edited by
@IveyJanette I see. Because I don't know the history of the publication, I wasn't sure. Soon-Shiong is closely connected to Elon Musk. That tells us something very imporant about him, I think.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to David Miller πΊπΈ π½ last edited by
@davidmiller I don't read any of the commentators in the thread to be denying that we need to temper our expectations based on evidence. I also suspect they'd agree with Timothy Snyder that obeying in advance and allowing those who want to make us feel hopeless are not options, either.
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Ivey Janette McClellandreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy And it's not good.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Ivey Janette McClelland last edited by
@IveyJanette No, it's not.
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Ivey Janette McClellandreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy We're regressing into the days of yellow journalism circa 1900.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Ivey Janette McClelland last edited by
@IveyJanette Yes, we are. The age of the robber baronsβ¦.
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Ivey Janette McClellandreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy And it's
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Ivey Janette McClelland last edited by
@IveyJanette Indeed.