Wanna buy a non-smart TV????
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@jackeric yes. I have a a couple which have never been connected. They're plugged in to HDMI / FreeView.
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@GreenSysAdmin
I doubt you've actually looked at any modern panels. All the (cheap!) smart tv's I've got boot instantly. Menus to toggle between HDMI sockets are fast.
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@Edent For me, it'd be like wanting to buy a classical guitar to play acoustically, and then buying an electro-acoustic and never plugging it into an amp. It's the waste of resources – material, time, etc. – that could've been saved, or better spent making, say, the acoustics better.
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@lopta what do you mean by "gum up the works"?
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@miblo It's more efficient to mass manufacture something than to make something niche.
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@Edent
It may be because of the brand, but I have to circuit power off the TV once a month because it stops working.I mean sure, once a month isn't a big deal, the TV is still here, but it annoys me that I have to do this routine at all.
So, I agree with you in that it's not hard, I have one and I did just that, but it can come with needless drawbacks and side effects.
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@Edent I literally set them up for friends and family all the time. Admittedly they are always tempted by the lower tier rebadged Turkish Vestel crap (Toshiba, JVC etc. the brands that people think are "gold standard" but haven't been for years). So I'm not just idly commenting based on nothing (which I know grinds your gears).
Look at your other replies too. I'm not alone.
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@matrixes you should return that for a full refund - it sounds broken.
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@GreenSysAdmin sure, but buy a dumb TV from Vestel and you'll have the same experience.
The speed isn't related to it being smart or not.
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@lopta you should move somewhere better?
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@Edent my TV apologises to me constantly because it can't do the smart stuff. I wish there were a way to say, no, it's OK, I'm depriving you of your lifeblood (network connection) on purpose!
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@skylar I have a soldering iron you can borrow
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@Edent Sony, Samsung, LG with its "air remote" - all as bad. This is not a "crap brand" disease...
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@GreenSysAdmin don't know what to tell you, mate. Literally all my smart TVs (Toshiba, Panasonic, Hisense) react quickly to their IR remotes.
If you've bought something slow, return it for a better model.
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@Edent I've tested a lot of TVs at a charity shop and I can say the only thing that matters to me is how long it takes from pressing a button to something happening
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@Edent We live in town. OTA just isn't ubiquitous since the transition to DTV halved the range. #television
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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦replied to Terence Eden last edited by
@Edent first of all, in some cases the "smart" devices won't allow you to start using it without it being connected:
https://www.coolblue.nl/en/product/877354/tado-smart-radiator-thermostat-starter-duo-pack.html#product-specificationsTrue, this particular one is not a TV, but there is nothing stopping manufacturers to make that kind of requirement obligatory. Some Sony TVs already requires agreeing to Google's ToS before any functionality can be used at all:
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/articles/00114157Easy step from this to "you need to be connected for compliance reasons" or whatever.
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Terence Edenreplied to Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 last edited by
@rysiek you've sent me a link to a thermostat…
Did your smart TV intercept the connection and send me some subtle advertising
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@Edent our antenna was too sketchy, ditto my M-i-Ls
