Because #BotsInSpace is shutting down () I'm looking for a new home for my bots.

Terence Eden

@barubary I'm happy to hold your hand while you do so.

Cogito Ergo Disputo

@Edent @bot question: you say it won't store messages sent to it. How does the Fediverse work in that regard? Messages sent in general are lost if not stored by the recipient? So as owner of such a bot I would effectively never be the wiser as to the feedback on the automated content, right?

Terence Eden

@Disputatore messages are stored in several places.
1) The user who sends the message usually retains a copy.
2) The recipient's server receives a copy (and can choose to save it or not).
3) Anyone following the sender will usually receive a copy of all their messages.

I could save a copy of mentions. But that comes with increased disk space, having to handle deletions, and risk that someone will store abusive content on your server.

Cogito Ergo Disputo

@Edent thank you for taking the time to walk me through it. I have some suggestions that I will eventually post as issues in your gitlab repository. Hopefully that's adequate. I would fork it, but that would force me to recover my rusted-to-pieces programming skills, not to mention actually learning PHP and probably having to learn a whole bunch of stuff required for this particular domain.

Ted Gould

@Edent neat, would be cool to have this on PikaPods so that folks could set it up without knowing how to run a server as well.

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Need to figure out an idea for a bot

Terence Eden

@ted you'll need to speak to them about that.
But, personally, I don't think it is suitable for anyone other than tinkerers.

Arjen Haayman

@Edent @vincent @bot I'm using feed2toot to read RSS and post to mastodon. But that wouldn't work with this bot since posting to it isn't like to a regular mastodon instance, is it?

Terence Eden

@haayman @vincent that's correct. My code doesn't replicate the Mastodon experience.

Cogito Ergo Disputo

@Edent well, apparently I hadn't used my Gitlab account for too long, it got wiped out, and I can't be bothered to create a new one. My suggestion is to add the saving of replies with the following configuration options:
- roll over recording based on either number of messages or max memory
- discard any messages over a max number of messages or memory
- no limits

Terence Eden

@Disputatore did you read the FAQ?
https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/#why-doesnt-this-store-replies

Cogito Ergo Disputo

@Edent is it mandatory to expose replies?

Terence Eden

@Disputatore no. But the data is still on your server whether you like it or not.

If you're happy with that risk, feel free to fork it.

Terence Eden

Update!

You can now move followers from your old bot accounts to your new self-hosted ones.

So now @[email protected] points at @[email protected] - and all the followers have moved!

Source code at https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

Owen Blacker

@Edent I'm intrigued why you went for @solar rather than …@bots.edent.tel

Is it because each bot is running its own instance of that "single account PHP file" thing you shared the other day?

Terence Eden

@owenblacker Yup! A single domain per "instance".
Subdomains are free

Terence Eden

OK! My self-hosted ActivityPub Bot works with a few hundred followers.

I'm going to try and move @colours which has over 1,000 followers (WHY?!?!) and see if it copes with that.

All the code's at https://gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

Terence Eden

Hmmm. About 1,000 followers have moved over to the new account - @colours

I can see my messages being sent. But they don't seem to be received. Not entirely sure what's going on and am half a bottle of Malbec into the evening, so probably shouldn't be futzing around with code.

One for the morning, I fear!

Jochie 👨🏻‍💻

@Edent I’m delighted to see you added the move support. Do you think doing the reverse is also feasible, so if the experiment fails it doesn’t become the Hotel California?

Terence Eden

@jochie I suspect so
Please raise an issue on the repo so I don't forget.

Terence Eden

OK. What is going on here?

A bunch of people can see the posts sent out by @colours - but lots of people can't.

As far as I can see, Mastodon.social isn't sending me back an HTTP response when I send to a shared inbox. But other Mastodon-based servers happily accept it.

Here are the headers
https://gist.github.com/edent/1f41d1b2a50ab497e5d5f8d9e851caf1

Any help #ActivityPub friends?