Someone sent me a link to a fully-funded PhD they thought I'd be a good fit for.
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@Edent yes, been doing it for the past three years *and* raising a child too. They assume you can live in a single room with very few overheads.
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@solderandchaos have you considered sending your child to sweep chimneys?
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Dr James Ravenscroftreplied to Terence Eden last edited by
@Edent mine was something like £15k pro-ratadover 2015-2022 - ended up getting about £500/mo which meant I could drop down to 3 days at my job and then as inflation got a bit mental (and my research shifted to just writing up) I had to go back up to 4 days a week to maintain my lifestyle. Also didn't help that the uni mis-calculated the monthly amount and "ran out of money" in 2022. Would have had to go back full time but my amazing supervisor 'found' a pot of money to help me near the end
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Terence Edenreplied to Dr James Ravenscroft last edited by
@jamesravey bloody hell, sounds like a nightmare!
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Raj 🇬🇧🇪🇺💻🖥️ 🔶 (🌻🇺🇦)replied to Terence Eden last edited by
@Edent Surely that depends on how many hours you are supposed to be dedicating to it? Remember that academic *study* - and PhD is still study - is aimed primarily at early adulthood, and yes these days students are expected to supplement their upkeep during study, with additional paid work. (I'm not endorsing the view, but that is pretty much how it works.)
£19237 at NMW of £11.44/h is 210 8h days. Which leaves 50 of the year's work days free for other earning or holiday activity.
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Terence Edenreplied to Raj 🇬🇧🇪🇺💻🖥️ 🔶 (🌻🇺🇦) last edited by
@realcainmosni it is listed as a full-time PhD.
365 days.
104 weekends.
28 days holiday
8 bank holidays
5 days sick
Total of 220 "working" days.
About £25k at minimum wage. Even after tax / NI, it's still more than working at a PhD. -
@Edent the fact that it's tax exempt helps a lot as you can combine it with other work, which itself will be mostly untaxed while you remain below the personal allowance (which excludes the stipend).
As a student coming straight out of undergraduate it felt like a very large amount of money. But I was living in a houseshare with no dependents.
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@bovine3dom yeah, I think that's part of the problem. If you've just done 4-5 years at uni, it'll feel great.
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Joanna Bryson, blatheringreplied to Terence Eden last edited by
@Edent It's not exactly a job, it's an apprenticeship. As such, it's a lot more than you get paid to go to school or university.
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@j2bryson that's a helpful way to reframe it.
But I don't know anyone with a mortgage who could afford to take on an apprenticeship at that salary.
My MSc was done as an apprenticeship - but I was receiving a full salary as well. I couldn't have done it otherwise.
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@j2bryson but, compare it to this PhD advert from the Netherlands.
https://vacatures.uva.nl/UvA/job/PhD-Position-in-Inclusive-Design-with-Artificial-Intelligence/804483502/They present it as a job with benefits. Higher salary, help with moving, parental leave, pension, etc.
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Joanna Bryson, blatheringreplied to Terence Eden last edited by
@Edent yes, Dutch system entirely different, also Swiss. German mostly includes healthcare now, but UK has universal healthcare so not an issue.
