It's always a pleasure to see a popular Threads account with fediverse-sharing enabled.

Darnell Clayton :verified:

@Gargron They will! @threads will enable two-way communication either this month, next month, or in December before Christmas !

@mosseri & @zuck are probably working on scalability & moderation issues before they enable two-way communication.

Eugen Rochko

@darnell @threads @mosseri @zuck Where did you hear this?

Ghost of Enrico Palazzo 🎃

@Gargron

If I wanted to be on Threads, I'd have a Threads account.

As far as I'm concerned they can fuck all the way off.

I moved to an instance that blocks Threads so I don't have to interact with them.

Eugen Rochko

@Sir_Osis_of_Liver Well, you could say "If I wanted to be on beige.party, I'd have a beige.party account", and yet here we are talking to each other while using completely separate platforms. That's the principle of the fediverse and I don't see why it shouldn't apply to Threads. I want to talk to people regardless of which platform they choose.

Darnell Clayton :verified:

@Gargron @mosseri @zuck I remember #Meta employees talking about this on #Threads.

However, @verge published a timeline of when @threads would integrate with the #Fediverse & integration with #Mastodon was late 2024.

A peek at the Threads / #ActivityPub roadmap. https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/11/24035256/a-peek-at-the-threads-activitypub-roadmap

Also @j12t can confirm this roadmap too: https://reb00ted.org/tech/20231208-meta-threads-data-dialogue/

Notes from @tomcoates too: http://plasticbag.org/archives/2024/01/how-threads-will-integrate-with-the-fediverse/

Johannes Ernst

@darnell @Gargron @mosseri @zuck @verge @threads @tomcoates

Also, listen to Peter's update given a month ago at FediForum: https://spectra.video/w/w8ErDiH83UTptZsUxQzbkg

Troed Sångberg

@renchap

"We'll delay posting to Fediverse until our 15 minute edit window has expired" is what had me conclude they're not acting in good faith.

Unfortunately.

@GossiTheDog @Gargron @zuck @pcottle

Renaud Chaput

@troed @GossiTheDog @Gargron @zuck @pcottle on this specific case, they confirmed this was a (boring) legal reason, and will be removed once federatikg edits is done, the t are crossed and the i are dotted on some paperwork

Scott M. Stolz

@Eugen Rochko It should be interesting to see how this plays out. I think they (Meta, WordPress, etc.) see the writing on the wall and are being preemptive and proactive about it.

Some of us are old enough to know what happened to America Online (AOL), Novell NetWare, and, AppleTalk once TCP/IP took hold. They could not compete with the internet because open networks can expand faster than closed networks.

I think that ActivityPub is poised to become the next TCP/IP. Closed ecosystems will have a hard time competing with an open network. And they know that, so they are here.

cc: @Johannes Ernst @Sal Sarhangi :verified: @Darnell Clayton :verified: @jonathankoren @⁂ Justin (StayGrounded.online)

Osma A

@Gargron
The same is true for Bluesky bridge. It's very cool it exists, and it's also cool there is an opt-in mechanism. However the implementation of opt-in matters. The simplistic approach breaks discoverability, mentions, ability to communicate, all of which would also be possible to solve with little extra effort and no loss to the privacy aspects.

⁂ Justin (StayGrounded.online)

@scott It makes me wonder, would MySpace/Facebook had the market share they did if ActivityPub existed in 2004?

damon

@JustinH
Well, the Fediverse was influenced by what happened with Facebook and Twitter. So not even sure how it would’ve existed then

damon

@osma how would that all be done without the loss of privacy? Without respecting people’s wishes?

Asta [AMP]

@[email protected] @[email protected] "I don't see why it shouldn't apply to threads" buddy. dude. pal. "I want to talk to people regardless of which platform they use" threads hosts and posts actual hate groups and accounts dedicated to whipping up stochastic violence against LGBTQ groups. It's an unmoderated shitshow.

What they DO moderate is speech "critical of Israel", so you can't go on there and actually talk politics. So you say "I want to talk to people regardless", but the only people you actually get to talk to there are groups dedicated to violence against minorities and people denying the active genocide occurring in Palestine right now.

Speaking of meta and genocide, their moderation is infamously so poor they literally have blood on their hands. Your seeming devotion to open speech is worth nothing; all you're doing is enabling genocide-enablers to extend their reach. Ridiculous. You can engage in false equivalence all you want, but it doesn't make you remotely correct.

Then again, considering the massive anti-Black racism problem here on fedi, well, perhaps you're incapable of looking outside your little worldview bubble. I suggest you take that desire to talk to people "regardless of which platform they use" and use it for discussing things with groups impacted by unmoderated hate speech, like the Black people constantly harassed off of Mastodon.

Asta [AMP]

@[email protected] @[email protected] The fact that you seem to imply the issue is about platforms in general and not specifically Threads, the free hate speech unmoderated garbage server run by genocide-enablers and deniers, is... telling.

I don't think anyone has ever said "hey don't let platform Y federate". They have said "wow fuck that instance." And you compare it... to beige.party? I dunno, did beige.party enable a genocide? Was this beige.party?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/

You know just because it's called "Threads" and not Facebook doesn't mean it's a different company, right? The same amoral assholes who couldn't be bothered to hire moderators are behind Threads. No one gives a shit about the platform (except you, I guess).

Asta [AMP]

@[email protected] @[email protected] I guess beige.party has a lot to answer for here, according to you, for this comparison to be anything but ridiculous horseshit.

Imagine: you put "DANGER HAZARD" signs around hidden content as a rule but also think, as a rule, that interacting with a server owned by people literally responsible for enabling a genocide is a good thing. Think about your logic, here.