Is there a "normie" or more mainstream instance for Lemmy?

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Not everyone wants to spend social media arguing with people. We have things to do. It's not a particularly pleasant environment sometimes abd believe it or not, that bothers people.

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Check the various compatible kbin and mbin servers as well. I'm posting from fedia.io, an mbin server

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Yeah, this is exactly the childish annoyances and unpleasantness I'm talking about.

JackbyDev

To my American eyes and English speaking self, I assumed it was associated with communism. (I don't think it's bad or anything.)

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Sorry, it wasn't clear to me. Are you saying that your first association of the name Communick is with "Communism"?

^Damn, I might need to get a new domain...^

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I'm not American.

Lemmy is much farther left than any of our national discourse.

I get that American parties are farther Right than most but the discourse here is much farther Left than almost all political discourse. (Show me a serious party in a position of power in a Western democracy committed to ending capitalism.)

Nougat

I have to say it again:

Fascists promise to do fascist things
Americans elect fascists
Fascists do fascist things
HOW COULD DEMOCRATS DO THIS???

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Sorry not sorry. The world is falling to fascism thanks to the conditions created by capitalism and your friend needs to grow the fuck up and read some history. Lemmy world is centrist lib shit takes, if your friend thinks that’s “left” then maybe they should go to a fascist platform like meta or x where they belong.

Ulrich

Make your own?

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there’s this bizarre contingent of very vocal users who go nuts, pushing back against any actually achievable non right wing stance, and go on and on about how “liberals“ are evil and not “left”. I believe they are plants who’ve been given the job of dividing the left.

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Admittedly, I had communism on the mind but it's two letters apart... And in the context of taking on corpo social media... I dunno. Again, I was primed but that was my immediate assumption. (Though, you know what they say about assumptions.)

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And I have to say it again: libs created the material conditions to let it happen. Obama bailed out Wall Street instead of Main Street. People aren’t born fascist. They become it. Twice Obama voters switching to trump is great example of that and as usual democrats say nuh uh im not listening!!!!!!

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I'd like to agree with you but I am so cynical I think that's just how dumb people can be.

But those are exactly the folks that make this place less enjoyable for me and at least a couple other folks I know.

Nougat

So you're mad at Democrats for not being fascist enough?

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I'm finding it incredibly ironic. Mine is the only instance that is unashamedly for-profit and access is only for paying customers...

Ada

I'm not saying that if you don't want to destroy capitalism that you're not left. I'm saying that the perspective that reddit itself was "definitely left of center" is not a widely shared perspective, and if you believe that reddit of all places was left of center, then lemmy, which actually is left of center, is going to feel very left of center.

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I guess... Well, I have trouble seeing the fediverse expand that far then. Which is fine but there have been a lot of pleas to make this a viable alternative to corpo social media.

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Properly regulated capitalism is my Left but...

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What an idiotic take. Millions of people lost their homes in 2008 and watched those responsible walk away with millions of dollars in golden parachutes thanks to Obama lining his cabinet with Goldman Sachs bros and holding no one responsible. The “tea party” that formed is trumps base today.

Jesus Christ read a fucking book.

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I dobtwrhinj it's any serious political talk (otherwise most countries are having unserious talks about their Left and Right wings) but maybe in serious political theory talks?

Like, Germany's Left parties mostly don't want to dismantle capitalism but I wouldn't dismiss all conversation about them and putting people on that Left Right spectrum to be unserious.