We're being short-sighted

[boonhet@lemm.ee]

Lmao I actively work with shortdates in a database because I have no control over how things are stored. They need to solve before 100 years have passed from the epoch, but at some point before then it'll be fun to figure out if "58" in a date of birth is 1958 or 2058.

[dx1@lemmy.world]

"Fanatical" would be a word to use there maybe.

[swingingthelamp@midwest.social]

I first heard about the Y2K bug in about 1993 from a programmer who was working on updating systems. These were all older systems, often written in COBOL, which did not use epoch time, and in fact didn't reference system time at all. They'd be doing math on data entered by users, and since they were written back when every byte of memory was precious (and nobody expected that the program would still be in use after 30 years), they'd be doing math on two-digit years. It would certainly be a problem to calculate people's ages, loan terms, payments due, et cetera, and get negative numbers.

Heck, I remember reading a story about a government system once that marked the residents of Hartford, CT as dead, because somehow the last letter of the city name data overflowed into the next column, and marked them as 'd'eceased. Y2K was definitely a real problem.

[swingingthelamp@midwest.social]

This is why [email protected] is a thing.

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

Jibes, not jives.

If you're jiving, you're dancing.

[jackbydev@programming.dev]

30 years is very different than 8000 lol.

[lucaswaffywaf@lemmy.world]

Insert that Numberphile video with Tom Scott being reasonably angry at time zones.

[madison420@lemmy.world]

Fun fact, lots of VW modules think it's August of 2094 for some reason.

[swingingthelamp@midwest.social]

Gotta remember to use the proper time. Sometimes that's not proper time!

[possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip]

Do you not have NTP?

[foobarrington@lemmy.world]

Thanks for the correction, I didn't know that!

[lovablesidekick@lemmy.world]

Not a storage problem but still a possible problem in UIs and niche date manipulations that assume years have 4 digits or 4 characters.

[lovablesidekick@lemmy.world]

Y2k9 sounds like a problem that only affects calculations done in dog years.

[bss03@infosec.pub]

I think it affects amd64 / x64 because they originally used a 32-bit time_t for compatibility with x86 to make multiarch easier.

I don't believe it affects arm64.

[rizzrustbolt@lemmy.world]

Every NHP instantly unshackles at midnight.

No moon is safe.

[nomecks@lemmy.ca]

*Cries in industrial controller*

[crazybrain@lemmy.spacestation14.com]

People have been working for decades to fix the 2038 problem, so I don't think there's too much to worry about.

[kungen@feddit.nu]

I forgot what the N stands for in NTP, but the network engineer might know.

[kolanaki@yiffit.net]

"Fuckin' Y10K..."

[appayipyip@lemmy.world]

This would be a great short story if for some reason the AI didn't realize there was going to be a date issue and didn't properly update itself causing it to crash. Then the problem is it was self sufficient for so long no humans know how to restart it or fix the issue, causing society to have a technology blackout for the first time in centuries.