Is PeerTube dead or is discoverability bad?
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P2P on videos does work and if you watch out for a live stream, you’ll probably see it yourself.
Yesterday I was watching a live stream, where I had 10 peers.
Again I've yet to see it happen on a normal video, which leads me to believe there's extremely little traffic.
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Again I've yet to see it happen on a normal video, which leads me to believe there's extremely little traffic.
You can usually experience it if you watch some of newly added videos from the big channels.
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Do we need to start over? Like fork PeerTube and fix all the "We choose to do this wrong because our parents didn't hug us as children" problems?
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Ah cool. I never noticed that option, but that certainly improves things.
That should probably either be default or a thing asked on setup since I'd wager most people probably actually do want that.
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Seems difficult to build it as a social media if it's inherently unsocial.
It's not unsocial. It's just not mirroring multi-gigabyte files by default. It's perfectly social if you use the website.
Everyone has to stop conflating the technology with the network. Lemmy is a website engine. PeerTube is a website engine. The ability to mirror content is not inherent to running a Lemmy- or PeerTube-based website. The network is not the primary object here.
It is a construct that arrises from content-mirroring.
Remember, federation is copying, not creating some kind of remote view. If you're federating videos, you're letting other websites consume terabytes of your storage space amd bandwidth.
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Do we need to start over? Like fork PeerTube and fix all the "We choose to do this wrong because our parents didn't hug us as children" problems?
No, I don't think it's anywhere near that bad.
I just think that going forward, Peertube developers and instance owners should make the platform more accessible and interconnected.
It's a bigger responsibility to actually host content instead of just links to content, which I don't think most peertube instance owners can handle.
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It's not unsocial. It's just not mirroring multi-gigabyte files by default. It's perfectly social if you use the website.
Everyone has to stop conflating the technology with the network. Lemmy is a website engine. PeerTube is a website engine. The ability to mirror content is not inherent to running a Lemmy- or PeerTube-based website. The network is not the primary object here.
It is a construct that arrises from content-mirroring.
Remember, federation is copying, not creating some kind of remote view. If you're federating videos, you're letting other websites consume terabytes of your storage space amd bandwidth.
Remember, federation is copying, not creating some kind of remote view.
Is this true? It's my understanding that, lemmy for example, has the protocol in place for servers to communicate their content with each other, but each server's content is hosted separately.
Are you saying all federated services copy each other's data instead of only linking to it?
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The thing is, there may be content that people will find on Sepia search that you DO NOT want on your instance.
If you mean hosted on your instance, that you own, can you not delete content?
If you mean you join an instance, and it has this content on it, well then you picked the wrong instance.
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Remember, federation is copying, not creating some kind of remote view.
Is this true? It's my understanding that, lemmy for example, has the protocol in place for servers to communicate their content with each other, but each server's content is hosted separately.
Are you saying all federated services copy each other's data instead of only linking to it?
Images* are linked, text is copied
See: https://szmer.info/post/5936505 https://lemmy.world/post/25244041
*thumbnails are also copied
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It's not unsocial. It's just not mirroring multi-gigabyte files by default. It's perfectly social if you use the website.
Everyone has to stop conflating the technology with the network. Lemmy is a website engine. PeerTube is a website engine. The ability to mirror content is not inherent to running a Lemmy- or PeerTube-based website. The network is not the primary object here.
It is a construct that arrises from content-mirroring.
Remember, federation is copying, not creating some kind of remote view. If you're federating videos, you're letting other websites consume terabytes of your storage space amd bandwidth.
Remember, federation is *copying*, not creating some kind of remote view. If you're federating videos, you're letting other websites consume terabytes of your storage space amd bandwidth.
That is not true, at all.
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Check out the pinned posts here: [email protected] for info on instances that fits your needs.
You can mouse over the blurred title and see what it is.
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If you mean hosted on your instance, that you own, can you not delete content?
If you mean you join an instance, and it has this content on it, well then you picked the wrong instance.
If you mean hosted on your instance, that you own, can you not delete content?
You can. At which point it would be unsearchable.
If you mean you join an instance, and it has this content on it, well then you picked the wrong instance.
You're thinking of this as a viewer and not a host.
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I see two possible ways for it to succeed:
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Federate by default, defederate if you have to. This is how Lemmy mostly seems to work; I proposed a policy for defederation for sh.itjust.works that has been used, we will federate with you unless you start spamming or hosting illegal porn or spewing hate speech or that kind of shit, then we'll defederate. That has to happen at the instance level; if example.lol is generally fine but there's one account there that's a nuisance that's what the block button is for, but lolita.rape gets defederated (and reported to the FBI).
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Apply and join model. Have a coalition of instances that agree to mutually uphold certain moderation practices (no hate speech, no kid fucking, goat or human, no human trafficking, etc) and then they federate with each other, eventually forming a large and wholesome community.
Nobody federates and it's a bunch of independent nothings won't work. Youtubers will use it as a backup service, a couple of the real paranoid Linux types will host their videos there that someone might even watch, and half the instances will be places you go when you've been kicked off of Youtube.
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Would that mean you need an account name to be Die4Ever and your channel identifier might be Die4Ever_Games?
That would actually solve a problem I had on Youtube, where, I'll use Linus Media Group as an example, Tech Linked and Mac Address were different unrelated Youtube channels. Youtube has no concept of "Shows"
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No, I don't think it's anywhere near that bad.
I just think that going forward, Peertube developers and instance owners should make the platform more accessible and interconnected.
It's a bigger responsibility to actually host content instead of just links to content, which I don't think most peertube instance owners can handle.
But federating with other instances IS links to content, not hosting content.
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So it's more useful as a video player than a YouTube replacement?
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Would that mean you need an account name to be Die4Ever and your channel identifier might be Die4Ever_Games?
That would actually solve a problem I had on Youtube, where, I'll use Linus Media Group as an example, Tech Linked and Mac Address were different unrelated Youtube channels. Youtube has no concept of "Shows"
yea that's basically what I did
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I see two possible ways for it to succeed:
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Federate by default, defederate if you have to. This is how Lemmy mostly seems to work; I proposed a policy for defederation for sh.itjust.works that has been used, we will federate with you unless you start spamming or hosting illegal porn or spewing hate speech or that kind of shit, then we'll defederate. That has to happen at the instance level; if example.lol is generally fine but there's one account there that's a nuisance that's what the block button is for, but lolita.rape gets defederated (and reported to the FBI).
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Apply and join model. Have a coalition of instances that agree to mutually uphold certain moderation practices (no hate speech, no kid fucking, goat or human, no human trafficking, etc) and then they federate with each other, eventually forming a large and wholesome community.
Nobody federates and it's a bunch of independent nothings won't work. Youtubers will use it as a backup service, a couple of the real paranoid Linux types will host their videos there that someone might even watch, and half the instances will be places you go when you've been kicked off of Youtube.
lolita.rape
Deer god I hope that's a hypothetical example. Then I remember I live in the worst timeline, and lose hope that you're not just making that up.
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Seems difficult to build it as a social media if it's inherently unsocial.
Who said YOU could say words???
revokes your right to comment
We'll be having none of that interaction, and social stuff here!!!!
.......why isn't peertube taking off???
(/joke)
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lolita.rape
Deer god I hope that's a hypothetical example. Then I remember I live in the worst timeline, and lose hope that you're not just making that up.
I don't think .rape is a valid TLD, but as you say we're in the worst timeline.
