We're RIGHT HERE

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They’d be right at home at .ml

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They just barter a FBI spy with a Chinese spy

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Do I need to buy a billboard to advertise the concept of not being a complete dipshit

atocci

Is Loops out yet?

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Yea, but it's very early. Backend seems pretty solid, but the client app...leaves a lot to be desired lol

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very beta rn, but its no worse than TikTok functionally and doesn't have any Chinese spyware

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That's…honestly a fair point; a good chunk of why I never bothered with TikTok is it has some of the worst UX I've ever experienced in my life.

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The weird obsessions you and some users have for certain instances that you can block is truly mind boggling

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Be careful what you wish for.

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Lemmy doesn't have the censorship and speech-control from those platforms, but it pretty much distributes your data widely to anybody that asks for it.

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Blocking is just shoving your head in the sand, what about new users who don't know any better? Not very fair to them to be instantly subjected to that fire hose and is a bad look as a whole.

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Blocking is just shoving your head in the sand

I already wrote my thoughts here about this, so I'm not going to re write everything.

I am very much aware about those instances.

What it actually shows, is that neither of you have taken the time to understand why those instances are hated. You're just following the trend without knowing why

what about new users who don't know any better?

What about them? They can find out just like any other users have. Hopefully, those new users might do more research on them than you

Not very fair to them to be instantly subjected to that fire hose and is a bad look as a whole.

It's exactly as bad of a look as any other instance in here. There are trolls everywhere, and you pretending that they're only there is an outstanding simplification.

You think there aren't any bigots on .world? What would those poor new users think of .world when they see a racist bigot?

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I do find it kinda funny that that the US gov. Was using "CCP propaganda" as an excuse to ban a platform of expression, and now many of those users have begun using an app that actually has a history of defending the CCP

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How is Loops no worse than TikTok functionally? People love TikTok for its feed algorithm. Loops doesn't have that and it's barely functional at all at this point.

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Sorry, but I did have an open mind with them. You're the one that has a fundamental misunderstanding on the tankies of .ml

Most of their positions isn't "The ideals of communism is good and should be pursued" which is something I have no issues with

Their positions deny basic facts in support of their beliefs, like China being an authoritarian dictatorship masquerading as a communist country. Or China has in fact led its own genocides or the Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked.

And when you bring up these basic facts, your comment is removed and you're probably going to be at minimum banned from the community. They do not engage in good faith. Period.

That is why they are so hated

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I mean apples to oranges, this isn't really anything like tiktok, we don't share shorts here we create and post on each other's posts

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Personally I just like the fuck you energy behind it all.

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You clearly haven't tried Instagram Reels then

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Sorry, but I did have an open mind with them. You're the one that has a fundamental misunderstanding on the tankies of .ml

Riiight. I have an alt account on .ml (like you would know if you bothered to read linked my comment, instead of replying to only a chunk of my comment) but I am the one who don't understand that instance....suuure.

Also, trying to use tankies as an offensive term, immediately shows your true colors and how much you "really had an open mind". You didn't and you don't have an open mind.

Most of their positions isn't "The ideals of communism is good and should be pursued" which is something I have no issues with

It actually is.

Their positions deny basic facts in support of their beliefs, like China being an authoritarian dictatorship masquerading as a communist country. Or China has in fact led its own genocides or that Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked. Hell they've even been known to be on favor of NK.

All of this is false. Just because there are SOME extreme users, it doesn't mean the whole instance is like that. By the same standard, when I see a Trump meme or with Confederate flags or with transphobic content, I should generalize for the whole instance too, yes?

The examples you provided further show that you didn't really went to .ml with an open mind. I am not denying those facts, but the way you described them indicate you learned nothing. There are SO many posts already there that address all those examples and how historical revisionism and propaganda helped to muddy the waters. A lot of the things we know about those historical facts (and let's be honest - we're not historians. The things we know about those events, are mostly what was told to us and what we quickly scanned on a summary) are somewhat painted in a light that makes them appear more favorable to whoever has interests in the race.

And when you bring up these basic facts, your comment is removed and you're probably going to be at minimum banned from the community. They do not engage in good faith. Period.

I've never had any issues with the mods over there. Whenever I asked questions about ANY of those facts, I've always received very calm and detailed answers to those questions. Sometimes I was happy with their replies, sometimes I was not and my mind wasn't changed.

But certainly I didn't go in calling everyone a tankie and telling them they're all just a bunch of insane users who don't understand as much as you do.

That is why they are so hated

It's not. It's because it's easier and more appealing for users to get on the hate train without actually engaging with different ideas.

Just like so many users do when they go in that community to ask a "gotcha" question that has been addressed thousands of times before and then cry "see? Authoritarian tankies!!" When they get banned for it.

Full honesty here: I too cried like that at first. But it's precisely because I behaved in a similar way to what I just described. And that is not open mindedness