Mycology is a complicated field
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Why not after?
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have you tried Pleurotus? It's texture and taste is quite similar but relatively weaker.
It grows on wood like shiitake.
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some of the tastiest mushrooms can never be bought "from the market".
They are rare and their "gatherers" keep their territories as a secret.
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I followed the work of some A.M. groups for a bit and they have basically proven it can be eaten without dying. The question is, what benefits do the different A.M. compounds have? Unfortunately, everything I heard or read from those groups was anecdotal and not formalized. Admittedly, I am a year or so behind on my fungi studies so there may be new info out there.
Speaking of anecdotal, my experience with psilocybin has been phenomenal. Granted, I don't eat much anymore, but I don't really need to. Studies do support its use for PTSD treatment for vets (me) and for recovering addicts and alcoholics (also me). I only mention this as there are likely thousands of undiscovered compounds in mushrooms that may be phenomenal for mental health The evidence (anecdotal or not) is looking good for A.M.
Alas, there are risks.
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Ruleta rusa
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I took a class in Geology, but I failed the final exam...I took everything I had been taught for granite.
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it's not that difficult if you get a primer from someone seasoned at it.
Random thought - this is a rare case where survivorship bias works in my favor. The best mushroom mentors really are the ones that haven't died.
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I still remember when I met a pilot who majored in geology. I asked him "you know the irony in that right?" He says "yep. But hey at least I can tell you about the mountain we're about to crash into."
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Lions mane and chicken of the woods. Grill em, hit em with some garlic butter and lemon pepper. Pretty dang good imo.
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I have not. Thanks.
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I’m sorry, that’s rough. I’m not allergic to them, but I can’t digest most animal fats, and it was really difficult before I just went vegan and stopped trying to figure out what would trigger me. “Pretty severe bodily evacuation” is a good way to put it, actually.
Not mushrooms exactly, but fungus. Beer or fresh wines like FederweiĂźer should still have active yeast in them.
I wonder if there’s a distinction between mushrooms and fungus for allergy purposes. AFAIK, “mushroom” is about as broad a category as “leaf,” but maybe there are structures specific to them that you react to.
I assume penicillin is a no go for you, right?
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I'm actually not allergic to penicillin at all so now you've got me thinking. It must be a specific kind of mushroom they were referring to in the tests and not all fungi. I certainly haven't had any luck eating any common mushrooms but I'm not sure it's all fungi as I don't have issues with antibiotics and my response to beer is not nearly as bad as when I eat mushrooms.
Sorry you had to go through that as well! I was lucky to be able to get referred to an allergist that dealt with the majority of my environmental allergies with shots at least, but there's not really a way to manage food allergies other than avoiding them.
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I was you two years ago. Then I took a photo of a strange mushroom and posted it online, only to be told it was a choice lions mane and an incredibly valuable and delicious find. Cue four hours consuming all the resources I could to make sure this thing wouldn't kill me, before eating the tiniest nibble and waiting 24 hours. Yep, it was delicious alright, and because I survived the night, I ate more. I fried it in garlic butter and threw it in soups, I dehydrated it and used it as a thickener. I found more and ate more. Then I learned about chicken of the woods - very distinct with no dangerous lookalikes. Another delicious experience. And so I bought some books. And went on more hikes. Turns out, what I had thought of as danger was just lack of knowledge. I know not to walk in front of a moving car, despite them being all around. Learn what not to eat, learn the ones that can be confused, learn the ones you can't really fuck up IDing, and it's not as scary as it seems.
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Mushrooms are the fruiting bodies of fungus, so it could be that you’re allergic to something common to all mushroom gills or volva. In my case, neither the doctors nor I were really interested in testing it all out, because there’s not much of a benefit and exclusion diets are horrible and take forever.
Luckily, it runs in my family (though not as severely as in me), so I was raised without pork or really fatty cuts of meat, which made it pretty easy to isolate. And I don’t know about you, but I find that I have a pretty Pavlovian response to the idea of eating things that make me sick and don’t miss any of it.
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I thought I hated mushrooms but it turns out the most common grocery store mushroom is just the worst kind. Crimini/button/portabello it's all Agaricus bisporus and it sucks. Enoki mushrooms opened my eyes and so far I've liked every single mushroom I've tried that isn't that dogshit A bisporus rubbery mud.
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I've had a black nightshade berry and I can confirm it tasted like a sweet tomato. I assume the poisonous ones taste similar, if they were bitter then accidental poisonings wouldn't be a big concern.
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A muscaria isn't so much a "trip" as it isn't hallucinogenic, it's more of a deleriant and disassociative. Also it's gonna give you stomach cramps. People generally don't eat them for fun.
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"And these, will go great with a pizza AND kill you."
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Chanterelle mushrooms are a good one. Delicious, easy to identify, and don't have a deadly lookalike.
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I guess. But I don't think my family ever had bought mushrooms apart from shiitake and truffles. All the rest were hand picked in the forest.