Centrism

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Least deranged anti-communist.

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I'm going to let you in on a secret: the maintenance of the empire is also violence, and also has a massive human cost.

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Lol. Liberals are deeply unserious people.

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Good Lord you're arrogant

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You're right, you're not a centrist, because the two major US parties are right wing and far right wing, so being between them is solidly right wing.

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Yeah you're right: we need fascists to make sure we don't give minorities too many rights, we need monarchists to make sure there's not to much democracy, and we need anti abolishonists to make sure we don't free to many slaves.

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Exactly: freedom for some, genocide for others.

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That's being left

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Pretty fuckin insulting to tell me my father's degree doesn't matter. Also WW2 was/is a pretty fucking important time in the world history so it gets a lot of coverage. Especially what the Germans were doing leading up to the start of the war as it's kinda relevant to how the whole thing happened in the first place.

That initial article you posted which again has ZERO FUCKING SOURCES has been posted on multiple history subreddits as well as a few times on other more history specific forums/sites.

The majority of Germans at the time didn't want to finish the Autobahn as it was seen as a waste of time and resources. Hitler was the one that saw the potential and pushed to make it happen.

Now for this last part I'll say it really slowly so your lone remaining braincell can understand me.

HITLER WAS AND WLL ALWAYS A TERRIBLE, EVIL PERSON. THE NAZIS WERE AND ALWAYS WILL BE HORRIBLE PEOPLE.

You came into a conversation that wasn't even really about Hitler and you highjacked it with your unsubstantiated revisionist German "history" while screaming about Nazi propaganda.

Back to my original conversation. Good people that helped many have also done bad things. Bad people who were evil have also done good things. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Your inability to admit that such a terrible person could have ever done anything perceived as "good" is really alarming. You are in denial of reality because of your deep (and valid) hatred for that man. You can admit that Hitler did things that had a positive impact on Germany in the long term. It doesn't undo anything evil he did. The two facts can coexist.

I'm not defending Hitler as a person nor am I defending the Nazi party in any way. I was simply pointing out that something those terrible people did happens to have ended up as a good thing later on down the line. It does not excuse their other actions in any way.

Majorllama

Jesus Christ you people are impossible to have any real dialogue with.

Majorllama

What a stupid fucking response to what I said.

It's like you didn't even read my comment. That or you read it and proceeded to understand exactly none of it.

Whatever dude. I'm not gonna waste any more energy trying to talk to you fuckin morons. None of you are even capable of having normal conversations anymore.

Good night.

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Yes exactly, I recently watched this guy's video and it made me a lot more aware of the left/right thinking we do

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As it is an unnuanced take of anti-capitalism

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The people saying oppression isn't always bad, what kind of examples or situations do they give? Pretty curious because I can't really think of any examples where oppression would be good.

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The rest of the democratic world isn't working off a framework from the 1700s

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What about the planned economy that learns from the previous one's mistakes? Or the one after that?

Based on all the past experiments, they all fail.

Every person and company has complex needs and desires and ultimately, it's impossible for a central authority to fully anticipate and manage that over the size of a nation, because the quantity of parameters and unknown is almost infinite. Heck I don't even know what I'll want to eat for dinner!

Without even diving into the issue of concentrating so much power into a single hand. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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I dunno, human history is a story of conscious design and planning outperforming evolutionary systems.

China and Vietnam are doing pretty well with there mixed economies. Seems like they've harnessed the positive effects of market economies without giving up conscious control to a stock market that only makes decisions via short-term profits.

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A lot of countries went from monarchies to democracies peacefully

could you name one?

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Cool. I guess only people to the right and left are valid. The right is bad, and the left is good. The rest? I guess we don't count...

Gee sounds a little like a far right standpoint... That's so weird, they never go authoritarian!

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The left in the US has gone on record wanting to tax soda because it's unhealthy.