Nazis
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Crying wolf....again.
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Do you think it plausible that actual white supremacist Neo Nazis might call other people Nazis, despite being fully aware that they are not, simply to further muddle the issue? A sort of, "I know you are, but what am I?" defense, that most of us master somewhere in early childhood?
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This isn't the same as The Boy Cried Wolf.
Unless you're talking about a version of the story where there really were wolves every time he cried wolf and nobody believed him until the wolves were eating people.
Still not a perfect analogy but much closer.
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Woah woah woah, you can't be using levelheadedness and logic here on Lemmy! How dare you!
We're over here trying to LARP that everyone we call a Nazi is a legitimate, german-grown, armband-wearing ACTUAL Nazi, even though they said something innocuous like they don't like sex gear on display in parades!
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Voicing concerns as the republicans slowly claimed their way towards fascism is not the same as an imagined wolf.
The allegory would be watching a wolf circle the chickens but idiots dismissing it because then wolf hasn't killed any chickens yet.
But that didn't work as well for wolf sympathizer like you.
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I’m a little worried about the distraction this is causing, distraction away from taking real action that can help. Like, felon and nazi are real and useful predictive attributes, but we kind of already knew some of that.
I feel like a better focus would be on taking action - donation, volunteerism, things your class valedictorian would do - to counter actual harmful or evil changes that are made in actual legislation. It sucks to have to prop up things that make America actually great ourselves because narrow minded politicians cut public funding. But to keep these things alive, we have to step up.
We already made our predictions known. We aren’t convincing anybody new, and deep down we already know this isn’t convincing anybody new. The next step is taking action. Local non-profits want to hear from you. If it’s a cause that you think might be threatened, and you care about it, you might be able to help.
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There was no way we could tell he was a Nazi
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This people we said where moving towards nazism are now doing Nazi salutes.
Clearly it is our fault for being smart enough to see what was happening and sounding the alarm!
It's take a true smooth brain to always find the way to blame the intellectuals for their own abhorent behavior.
I'm guessing the next stage here is blaming us for why you and them became Nazi. We clearly gave you no other choice. You and them are the real victims here.
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The image depicts a guy in a nazi unform, doing a nazi salute. It's a nazi.
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Bullshit. We've been calling so many people Nazis precisely because they actually turned out to be Nazis. Every single fucking one of them.
If you didn't see it, it's because you were deliberately turning a blind eye.
Now quit your fucking bullshit.
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It hasn't lost its effect. It never had an effect to begin with on the people that this cunt was sieg heiling because they are happy to downplay the very real and very obvious fascist elements of the American right. Saying the word Nazi has lost its effect makes this sound like the issue is one of semantics, as though if that word hadn't (wholly and justifiably) been used so much in recent decades that people would now wake up and go, 'Oh fuck, this guy is actually really bad'. But they wouldn't. Because fascists don't think other fascists are bad.
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Mostly what I see are pedants who keep arguing that actually it's a coyote circling the chickens, and that calling it a wolf de-legitimizes actually crying wolf, and that wolves had a very specific platform, and all the while the coyote is getting closer to the fucking henhouse.
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by your definition words lose meaning when they're overused.
if that's the case then why has the "n" word never lost its strength as an oppressive word?
I think it's because words don't lose meaning. I think it's because Nazis brainwash people into thinking labeling Nazis as Nazis is wrong and should be used to label real assholes. problem with that is that Nazis come in many forms.
So..I'll keep calling Nazis, Nazis, and you keep disagreeing with me.
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I know, it's the response from red shirt. He doesn't listen to the guy calling out the nazi, explaining how it's probably just overexaggeration.
It's similar to the ending of the boy who cried wolf. It's not that most people like wolves, or side with wolves, or think wolves aren't a threat. It's the person that that yells wolf is ignored when the real deal comes around.
I'm don't like nazis. At all. But there is certainly an argument that the term had been used too loosely (I was just called one in this comment section ffs) and now people are making nazi salutes in DC and are being ignored.
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Yeah I get that they would try to make noise to hide in. But I imagine that is not the majority of cases where someone is labeled as a nazi. Note this was from 2010, long before Trump entered politics.
And this isn't to say I like, support or side with them it's just people ignore the term after a while of hearing it everywhere for all kinds of things that don't fit
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This isn't a case of the boy crying wolf. You fucks have been warned and have ignored the warnings. Now here we are.
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why has the "n" word never lost its strength as an oppressive word?
Tbf, it has to an extent, hence the "A" VS "hard R" distinction. The power was taken back as they say through repeated usage, some would call overuse, by that community. Other communities still aren't allowed to say it sure, but it did contextually lose power through overuse.
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It was literally the nazis who got centrists to "water-down" the word nazi.
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Intentional Stonetoss expression at the end?
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That guy doesn't look like Joe Biden