College
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
My version of this meme would be the prof begging the students to actually read the book he/she picked out that is free or cheap so that they are prepared for class and the students rolling their eyes and instead just going to chatgpt or cheggโฆ
Waiting for the meme, in another five or ten years, when students are bemoaning how the subscription fee to ChatGPT For Grad Students keeps going up.
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It's all very normal when you recognize how much of our institutional structure is corrupted by profit-seeking.
Its no different than a police officer taking a bribe to let you out of a speeding ticket. Or a customs official demanding a kick-back to let a ship unload its cargo. Or a mafia goon shaking down a local storefront for "protection" money. Just institutionalized so there's no risk of being punished.
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You also had the work/life experience by then to be better able to filter out pertinent information from the material.
Most college textbooks are written in an overly complex manner and require some skill to extract and process the information from them.
So right out of highschool you could have read the textbooks but gotten very little out of them.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Had a similar experience with a grad-level math class where the prof just handed out a sheaf of handwritten mathematical proofs. The class involved reading the proofs out loud and the prof explaining them. Excellent class.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
It's no different to...
*Lists things that only happen in third world shitholes
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
When you look at the statistics on education, Healthcare, poverty etc.. in the US you can see which country is the true "third world shithole".
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
That's something I'd want to take to the dean... But then the prof would just use each book ONCE as a workaround.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
In Europe we just have scripts for each lecture. Professors may liberally take and modify content from books so you might sometimes wanna check out their sources in a library but you do not need books.
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AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppetreplied to [email protected] last edited by
Thank you for not being one of those professors who writes their own "book" which is 85 pages stapled together that they charge $150 for.
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AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppetreplied to [email protected] last edited by
This is essentially just stealing from poor college kids. Despicable. I hardly ever bought any media in college (books, CDs, whatever). I spent an incredible amount of time at the school library studying there. I couldn't afford to buy the books. If a book was mandatory then I had to find a different class to fill that slot.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
We are, by strict definition of the term, a first-world shithole.
The third world is simply the set of states that were unaligned during the Cold War. The term took on a secondary implication of poverty largely because of American foreign policy. Failure to implement neoliberal market reforms marked a country out as "poor", while embrace of those reforms would result in your country being spotlighted as "growing" and its people as "enriched".
But its all just marketing. While Americans threw billions into the economic sinkhole of Pinochet's Chile and Park's Korea and Diem's Vietnam, countries like Burkina Faso and Yugoslavia and Iraq raced ahead of their peers by triangulating a path between the Great Powers while embracing local economic development instead of fixating on a debt-laden export market expansion.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
I worked for a professor like that.
Apparently the guy had complaints like this for years, forcing students to buy HIS BOOKS. ALL OF THEM.
They don't give a fuck.
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in Germany*
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
I always pirated PDFs of my textbooks, but in the few cases where I couldn't find anything online (typically when the book is niche and very new), I would always wait until I knew that I actually needed the book, because it was frustrating how often this meme came true.
I had this one professor I was really grateful for though. He was a big open-source guy, apparently used to contribute to freebsd and postgres, and he went out of his way to find open-source textbooks for all of his classes.
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[email protected]replied to AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet last edited by
I had one professor who did this but spiralbound for our only course textbook but it was mostly just pulled from other sources and they only charged like $20 for it. It was great. Another one of my professors got in trouble with the on campus print shop because she was sending students there with her personal copy of the textbook to make photocopies of like 50 pages at a time lmao. One thing I appreciated about my school was that our professors seemed generally aware of crazy textbook prices and did what they could to help make it more manageable.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
The yanks and their shitty primary education are the first to claim that their inability to type coherently is "language evolving"
I'll use "third-world" how I like
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
I'm a professor who uses OER materials too; I might have bit off more than I can chew this semester since a new class of mine lacks a free textbook and I said, to hell with it, and am curating weekly readings from stuff I can get off EBSCO our campus pays for. So far it's solid but I didn't have time to prep it all in advance so it'll be a wild ride every weekend!
I think I figured out a sneaky solution though; I made an assignment to had students find and report on an article for 5 to 10 minutes of class. They get real practice for grad school and I get crowdsourced sources. Win win!
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[email protected]replied to AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet last edited by
One of my professors wrote a major engineering textbook for his topic. It sucked. I value having a textbook written by someone other than the professor because that way I have a chance of encountering 2 ways to learn the concept.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
One of the first things I learned was to never buy books before the first class.
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Dharma Curious (he/him)replied to [email protected] last edited by
Hey, Prof! I have a question.
If you were to do things over again, with today's climate and opportunities, would you pursue the same career? I'm considering going into teaching, but it seems damn near impossible to make a living doing it nowadays. A friend of mine teaches highschool and he makes more than the professors at my school (granted, I go to SNHU online). Any advice?