Our bodies, our tormentors
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ymmv but I found walking around, having some water, and doing something menial task (cleaning up the room or dishes) and actively avoiding screens usually leads me to feel sleepy after 15-30 minutes..
Humans aren't really designed for full 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep (nor 16 hours of full wakefulness but I'm fortunate enough that I can take naps in the afternoon) so don't be hard on yourself if one happens to wake up in the middle of the night. It's natural (like afternoon naps).The biggest issue is screens/activities that are designed to keep you alert and a societal lifestyle that demands a strict wake-sleep cycle.
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Naps make me nauseous.
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I remember ages ago hearing/reading that after about 15 -20 mins of not being able to fall asleep, it actually becomes detrimental to keep trying and they recommended doing exactly what you do.
A quiet activity that requires no to little light. That is not stimulating, washing dishes was a specific activity that stuck out in my mind. Folding laundry, wiping down counters, brushing your teeth again is another one I've read that some people have success with. (Or some other bed routine step)
And btw 'your' blue light filter is NOT enough. idk why I get almost offended at the people who brush off light sleep disruption like the built in tint is enough.
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I miss feeling like this so much! for years I have back pain everytime i lay down and as time passes it get worst so I'm never confortable in the mornings. My body is so crazy that I can do anything without pain, even exercise, I have no pain at all...except if I lay down and relax. Fuck my body
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If you've not got one, I would highly recommend getting an air quality meter.
I had this issue last night, awake randomly at 2-3am. When I checked, the air quality was terrible. (It's bespoke scale put it at 10 out of 100) after opening a window and letting it improve, I happily drifted back off.
It turned out I didn't wake up randomly, I was dragged awake from a light sleep due to the air quality plummeting. It won't apply to everyone, but it's worth checking if it's a common problem.
(For reference, 10% air was CO2 of 2360ppm, and VOCs at 5000ppm with 80% humidity. Fresh air is CO2<500, VOCs<100)
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I'm running on a single hour of sleep. Thank God I am working from home today because I'm SUFFERING. and of course a day that's supposed to be slow is the day we get absolutely slammed with stuff. I can't handle this. Might cry on my lunch tbh
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I'm currently not working, not even job searching, just... taking December off it all. So naturally I'm allowing myself to sleep in as much as I want. I'm finding myself falling asleep around 1:30am and sleeping through to 11am, only waking due to the crushing guilt of 'wasting the day'. I could probably go for another 2 hours or more. It's all making me realize that humanity is doing the human condition dirty - we should sleep as much as we need to sleep, not be forced to grind at some mediocre task for 8 hours after under-sleeping.
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Not me; the second I get up, I'm awake for the entire day.
My best hope is to just immediately close my eyes and try to fall back asleep.
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In my experience, the feeling of not having slept enough doesn’t vanish, no matter how long you sleep. Personal hypothesis: When you wake up, the sleeping hormones are still present in your body and make you not want to get up, whether you still need to sleep or not.
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My bedroom window is open no matter how frigid it might be. It's fab to have that cool air waft across your face when ever you flip and expose a warm cheek.
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Any idea what causes the air quality to change so drastically? The aircon / heater not circulating air? Doors closed and no one going in or out?
Just curious if there are other ways to remedy the situation without opening a window in the (soon to be) middle of winter.
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Just as a sort of tangent to this - it used to be normal (apparently all over the world) for people to wake up after a few hours, get up and do stuff for a while, then go back to bed. Basically, there were 2 sleep periods each night.
BBC has a rather long and overly detailed article about it:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-biphasic-sleepMaybe all of us waking up at 2:00 or 3:00 is a remnant of that?
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If we were freed from the needs of a specific schedule, we would take this as signals of when your body wants to wake up and follow a polyphasic sleep schedule. If you're waking up at 3AM all the time, that's a signal your body wants to get up. If you're comfortable sleeping at 7AM, that's a signal that your body wants to sleep. So you would wake up at 3AM and do something for a few hours, then go back to sleep. Overall sleep time ends up the same, though there are some polyphasic schedules out there where you can theoretically sleep as little as 2 hours. They are extremely regimented on the schedule.
But good luck doing any of that while having a regular job.
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Room is too well insulated and sealed. Once the bedroom door is closed, the air exchange is too low. I'm planning to fit a heat exchanging fan system next year to permanently fix it.
Opening a window isn't as bad as it first seems. Most of the heat in a home (at least a brick one) is in the structure. Change the air, close the window, and it will rapidly warm up again. It's only leaving it open for longer periods that cool it down.
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Cool. Understood. Thank you.
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Cool stuff, thanks for sharing!
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Great read. Thanks for sharing it! Genuinely learned something today
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For me, there is a "yessss let's go!" moment that will happen eventually that let's me know I've truly slept enough, but I truly do think we're all exhausted in a way we're not evolved to properly deal with yet. Maybe 15-17 hours, while excessive, is what we all collectively need to start the repairing process. Who knows.
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This time of year it might be random bouts of 3AM fireworks.
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I get to that point if I had like 4+ days off work, or if things all fall into place (no one needs me, allergies weren't triggered, the weather didn't make all my joints hurt...) It seems to happen around 9 hours of sleep.
It doesn't happen often, but I'll say my brain just seems to work so much better when this happens. It does make me wish that things could be slow enough that this is typical, but I suppose I'm better off than I have been so I can't really complain.