I cannot tell you a way my life has genuinely gotten better since the advent of "smart" phones.

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The trick is to get someone to pay you to make the smartphones

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You’d have paid more for basic services like insurance as you couldn’t compare the market. You’d have to trust that clever guy in the pub since you couldn’t Google anything. You’d get lost driving to a new place and have to ask for directions, of course getting the village idiot.

I desperately hate how my I’m addicted to my phone and I’m praying that when the next generation of Garmin watches come out it will be able to talk to ChatGPT and make phone calls from it, so I could ditch my iPhone forever!

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You’d have paid more for basic services like insurance as you couldn’t compare the market.

Computers are a thing. My wife does all that stuff anyway.

You’d have to trust that clever guy in the pub since you couldn’t Google anything.

Striking up a conversation with a stranger a bar sounds like fun, even if they were trying to take the piss out of me. Most people are just hovering over their phones when they go out, theses days.

Maps always existed and mapquest was fine.

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I can only think of one thing that holds me back from a phone like a Nokia 3310, GPS map routes. Other than route planning and turn by turn everything else I could easily do without.

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I honestly don't drive enough to really consider it. Each their own i suppose.

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Well, it's a whole lot easier to get from point A to point B than it used to be.

And I can instantly find out what that actor's name is or what song I'm currently hearing.

But yeah, they're also pretty goddamn annoying at times.

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i hate 'apps', but off the top of my head

take-out ordering process now is super easy
having a camera and flashlight on my person all the time
not having to know peoples phone numbers anymore.. theyre all just kinda always there
being able to verify vocabulary and other simple to find information almost instantly
being able to self-entertain in locations where i have to wait for some crazy length of time

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All I want to say is, knowing an actors name or a song name isn't really meaningful change. I guess if I really liked a song and listened non stop.

I like podcasts and I like apple music. The thing is, these both predate smart phones. Hence "pod"cast. Who knows though if they would have gotten as popular if everyone didn't have easy access as they do today.

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Smartphones have saved my ass.

I'm really bad at remembering things, and when something pops in my head, it needs to be dealt with immediately, or it'll be lost forever. Credit cards due tomorrow? Open app, and done. Oh shit. My credit card is due tomorrow. Gotta go!

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-Take-out seems super fucking expensive now

-Ill be honest if I had a flashlight to find my phone when I lost it and a camera to take pictures of my cats, I'd be set.

-It was not hard memorizing the 3 numbers I had to memorize

-i wish I could say my vocabulary has improved. Maybe it has?

-Ill give you this but I don't remember struggling to entertain myself except for maybe long lines or something.

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I probably could do better time management. Remember those daily organizers, lol?

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PCs were a thing before the advent of "smart"phones. They used to sit at the corner of the room, being powered on only when their users wished to, without asking for things like tracking, daily updates, permissions on AI slop tools or TPM 2.0. They used to be owned by users, not users being owned by them. BBS (Bulletin Board Systems), Usenet, Gopher, e-mail and IRC were already available before the Web 2.0. There was definitely the exchange of information across the old internet users, including pricing comparisons.

The statement that...

"You’d have to trust that clever guy in the pub since you couldn’t Google anything"

...is particularly striking. It implies that we can "trust Google". Yeah, we can really trust Google! Should I recall how Google was recently recommending a daily diet of "rocks", as well as using "glue" to "stick the cheese to pizza"?

"Ok Google, find affordable prices for insurance", and I'm sure it won't pop up Google's advertisers and partners indefinitely...

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Congrats on having a low-effort life?

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Don't come at me like that's some sort of insult, brah.

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People who hate smartphones are luddites. There's so much these devices bring to the table that it's hard to summarize. From instantly connecting to anyone in the world with audio as well as video to knowing exactly where we are at any point in time. Enabling us to handle almost any situation. As long as my phone can connect to a cell network or Wi-Fi you could drop me anywhere in the world and I'd be fine.

The people who think smartphones have made the world worse are barking up the wrong tree. It's not the concept of the smartphone that did that, it's apps and capitalism that did. Exploiting psychology to wring any possible profit out of humanity is the problem, not these wonderful fruits of miniaturization.

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There’s so much these devices bring to the table that it’s hard to summarize. From instantly connecting to anyone in the world with audio as well as video to knowing exactly where we are at any point in time. Enabling us to handle almost any situation. As long as my phone can connect to a cell network or Wi-Fi you could drop me anywhere in the world and I’d be fine.

What problems are you actually solving, though?

Why do I need to connect to anyone in the world with audio and video? Why does any one need to know exactly where I am at all times? Why are you being dropped anywhere in the world with only a wifi connection?

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At first they were really cool and seemingly had unlimited potential with a wild and unknown future as numerous brands competed intensely with their own take on the formula.

These days, they are ultra expensive glass rectangles that exist to serve you endless ads and harvest every piece of info about every facet of your life. You also have to pay enormous subscription fees to get half the functionality they used to have. I just got an iPhone on a deep discount from my carrier and I stopped giving a shit about phone tech. Processor speed, camera specs, "AI", whatever. It's all trash to me now and the technology doesn't excite me in the slightest. Carriers and manufacturers have choked all the life and enjoyment out of smart phones.

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Look, are there downsides? Absolutely.

But, just thinking about the few days for Christmas:

Buddy and I were out and making plans to swim. Using our phones we found out what time the pool was open, then found out whether there was bbq nearby. We then added this to our calendars. All at thr same time without having to go home, look it up, coordinate then write it down.

The next day, I got groceries. I used my grocery app which also contains a couple hundred recipes I've collected. The grocery store had a great deal on something I hadn't expected so I pivoted, used my phone to look through my recipes, found an appropriate one and adjusted.

Later, running errands on my bike and finished a bit early. On a whim, I checked to see if a movie I wanted to catch was anywhere near. It was but not in an area I bike often. Booked my tickets on the phone, navigated there and streamed music to listen to as I rode.

Heck, when I visited for Christmas, a friend sent a message warning the ferries to come home were getting cancelled. I checked while we were out at dinner, found the last ferry was still running and had space so was able to make it home instead of getting stranded.

Outside of this week, I've dated a bunch of girls whom I'd have never met were it not for "the apps." Say what you will, it expands the network of dateable folks well outside your own social networks.

In summary: streaming music everywhere, all sorts of apps making things easier (in this case, recipes etc) navigation, making plans on the fly, dating all sorts of folks, booking things without having to find a computer and way more.

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I love how they are very robust and can handle just about any video game I've played in the last 30 years except the smart phone gaming industry is completely cooked and when titles do get released for mobile you have to wade through an ocean of shit to find them.

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Smartphone can be used to organize protests.

See: Hong Kong Protests (they didn't suceed in their goals, but still, they did put up some resistance)

Also, union activity. Encrypted chat apps to prevent employers finding out what you are up to. Prevents emplpyers preemptively fireing you before you legally form the union and get legal protection. Make strike-breaking harder.

Encrypted communications is very useful for people in abusive relationships. Smartphone cameras and microphone can record evidence of abuse. And data connection could also be used to save it to cloud and prevent deletion of evidence. Also, while not a "smart" phone specific feature, text to 911 is very useful if the abusive spouse is nearby and you need to call for help, and need to keep quiet. GPS positioning makes it easier to locate you.