Well howdja like that?
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And when hearing or reading pavlov we think about the guy, dogs, the bell and feeding.
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He what??
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I really wish this aspect was considered more often in pop sci discussions.
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neurons that fire together wire together.
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See I think of Barenaked Ladies. Maybe you're too young to know the song.
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Hehehe.. I know them alright..
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Funny...I think of Aimee Mann!
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I was such a giant fan in the 90s. I even got interviewed by Entertainment Weekly because I ran a Geocities page for them.
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Love this song!
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It's on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer soundtrack "Radio Sunnydale", and the song before it is Blue by Angie Hart. So these two songs are linked in my head, and every time I listen to one, I immediately have to listen to the other. How's that for a Pavlovian response?
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From memory he did throw them into boiling water.
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Damn that's impressive. I mean I have no clue what Geocities is (and google didn't give me anything) but still very cool. I was a kid in the 90s so I only found out about the band in the late 2000s but they're great.
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Geocities was a website where you could host your own website devoted to whatever you liked. It would be called barenakedladies.geocities.com or whatever name you picked. The pages tended to look awful, because we didn't know how to code them, and they had this sort of drag and drop template thing. Mine actually didn't look half bad though, but they tended to look like this:
Anyway the band is amazing. Steven Page's solo work is actually really incredibly good.
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There's a short summary in this article:
IFL Science: Pavlov's Dog Experiment Was Much More Disturbing Than You ThinkI'm not certain on the accuracy of everything it's saying, but other sources at least seem to agree he was originally studying digestion, and cut holes in the dogs' throats so the food would fall out when they ate.
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Wow that was a interesting wiki hole that lead me up to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_(psychology)
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Advocating here to stop posting screenshots of Tweets. We can all do better and there are loads of other sources for content.
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Ok, this is old though.
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While it’s certainly possible that Pavlov ended up ‘doing’ operant conditioning on himself, I think something different is going on here. I think Pavlov is a victim of humanity’s language capabilities: we do not only link concepts on one direction (dogs -> bell) but do so bidirectionally (dogs <-> bell). There is a whole line of research that goes into how associations (which are the ones in classical and operant conditioning) are not the same as relations (which are the ones that we humans are proficient at, blessed with, and cursed with).
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If I'm not mistaken, operant conditioning takes place either through reinforcement or punishment. How does that play in here?