Totalitarians, fascists and other scary governments prosecute you without telling you what you did, and everybody agrees that this is an evil practice. But now it's normal and accepted on social media

[infinite_ass@leminal.space]

Actually, censorship is the #1 form of prosecution for scary governments.

[none_dc@lemmy.world]

You're talking about Banning or Canceling?. Either way, is wild to compare prosecution with any of those things.

[infinite_ass@leminal.space]

Actually, censorship is the #1 form of prosecution for scary governments.

Sorry, I sometimes forget who I'm talking to.

[bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de]

Really hard to avoid Godwin's law in this thread.

[none_dc@lemmy.world]

"Scary Governments"

Fella, go outside, breath fresh air, eat something you like and please get over that banning you receive some time ago.

You're starting to sound like a 12 year old.

[zoostation@lemmy.world]

Yes, there's supposed to be a higher legal standard for the state sending you to prison than a private party banning you from their forum.

[gravityowl@lemm.ee]

Your username makes a lot of sense after reading such opinion, I'm going to be honest.

Do you sincerely think those 2 things are even remotely comparable?

[infinite_ass@leminal.space]

There is also common decency to consider.

[infinite_ass@leminal.space]

Maybe. But in the meantime let's discuss my point.

[not_rick@lemmy.world]

So you’re butthurt that your eugenics threads got deleted? This smells like troll

[ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee]

You aren’t being “censored”, and you don’t have a point. You can spout whatever shitty point of view got you banned on the street with a sign if you want, nobody will stop you.

[infinite_ass@leminal.space]

Actually, when they remove your post, that's literal censorship. Look it up.

[ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee]

Censorship is suppression or prohibition of speech. As I already said, you’re free to say whatever you want, so you are not being censored. When you go outside to touch grass, as has been suggested, then you can practice saying whatever you want to whomever you see!

If you think privately hosted websites are obligated to host whatever garbage the worst of the Internet can create, because deleting anything ever is “censorship”, then you are wrong. Imagine being so entitled!

[infinite_ass@leminal.space]

It isn't an evil practice because evil people practice it. It's just an evil practice.

Can we agree on that?

[infinite_ass@leminal.space]

When your post is removed, that's literally suppression of speech. Therefore it falls under the term "censorship". I feel pedantic to drive that into the ground like this. But how is this not clear?

[carrolade@lemmy.world]

People have freedom. This includes the freedom to allow you or disallow you from being around them. You cannot simply break into someone's house and talk to them if they don't want you to, for instance.

Governments do not get this freedom. Governments should and frequently do get constraints that individuals should not.

Here, we are individuals, not governments. This service was made by a bunch of randos, it's theirs. Not all of ours. We are here, in their house, because they invited us. They can disinvite us any time they want, they should and do have that freedom.

[rhynoplaz@lemmy.world]

It's literally not.

If you come into my house and say something I don't approve of, I can kick your ass out.

If Facebook or Reddit doesn't like it, they can kick you out.

If a Lemmy mood doesn't like it, they can kick you out.

Make your own site and say whatever you want IN YOUR OWN HOUSE nobody can stop you.

If it's not worth making your own site, then you are more concerned with being heard than being censored.

[gravityowl@lemm.ee]

Absolutely not. Social media companies do not persecute you in any shape or form. At most the can ban you from using their platforms. That's it.

Being persecuted by the government is an entirely different matter.

And bless your heart for living such a privileged life that you think those 2 things are even on the same level to begin with

[eleventhhour@lemmy.world]

In what court are you being prosecuted? State, federal? What laws are you accused of breaking?

[eleventhhour@lemmy.world]

If you took your own advice, you wouldn’t have so many comments of yours deleted.