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This is the one thing I regularly get so mad about. 99% of people I know have the means to shop responsibly but act so helpless and get so defensive of their need to buy nonsense from Walmart and Amazon. I realize I’m acting very high and mighty but I have family in very poor parts of Mexico, I’ve seen how awful their working conditions are, let alone the kids in sweatshops in China. I sound like a jerk/troll because I’m so fucking pissed that everyone can’t be bothered to care.

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I love the response that unless every bit of what I do is flawless in every way, then none of it means anything and I might as well buy stuff made by slaves. Yes, I acknowledge I’m acting very high and mighty, but stop being so defensive of your need to buy the cheapest stuff available. If you actually saw first hand what these kids go through, I guarantee you’d feel differently. 99% of people I know act like they’re so poor and then immediately spend their paycheck on the dumbest bullshit. I’m just infuriated by how checked out people are about this issue.

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The poorest people I know seem to make the effort and even support tax increases for social services. The wealthiest people I know cannot be bothered to do the right thing. People just shrug and say “I don’t want to think about that.”

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I see you've picked a few hardest examples and picked specifically difficult items.

RTX 4090 is specifically produced in areas with specific tech and infrastructure to do so. My big question here is why are you looking at specifically buying a top end graphics card, that is better than 95% of cards in existence? Nvidia does have significant sustainability progress, but seen nothing on if its environmental or social.

You asked what you can do? Don't buy the most expensive, high end, newest card.

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Its a tough choice. $40 ethical chirt vs $9 kmart shirt. I do feel bad when shopping at kmart, but either i need a better job, or live off 2 shirts and just do washing every day

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Buy second hand at thrift stores and there’s a lot of facebook groups dedicated to giving away free stuff

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Buy second hand at thrift stores and there’s a lot of facebook groups dedicated to giving away free stuff

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I'm going to largely agree with you because I do my best to buy local, to buy from locations that market that they go out of their way to get ethical goods, etc etc. But I'm going to also say that I have the incredible privilege to be able to do so. I have the money that I can drop on things that cost more (and these things often do), and I live in a location that has stores that are conscientious about this sort of thing, that know that there's a market for it in the area. I don't live in a food desert or the middle of bumfuck nowhere. I'm really grateful for that. And I recognize not everyone has either of those boons.

I think it's important to let people know those options are out there. And it's important to understand that not everyone can reasonably live up to that standard.

To those who are still reading and are genuinely interested in making a swap, start small and work your way up. My first change was when I had to switch to reusable grocery bags. It was state mandated. But it got me thinking about what else I could change, like no longer buying cases of water bottles and instead buying water filters. One step at a time, as opportunity permits.

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Where do you live where K-Mart is still a thing?

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Yeah, because those companies totally disclose their use of foreign labor and shitty wages. Blaming the consumer is such a corporate tactic. Laws need to be passed at the supply side, not the consumer side. Consumers will nearly always choose the cheaper option and of you want real change you need to change the choices available. I mean, do you take the same attitude toward climate change? Why don't we all just stop using gas cars, buy only sustainably sourced food, and buy only products that are made with low emissions? Because it's not feasible for most people. They don't disclose the emissions involved in every product you buy anyway. Only with government initiative will we make any real changes, and the same applies to this meme above. If we stepped in and saved American manufacturing sooner it wouldn't have gotten this bad. Just like how our individual choices are a mere drop in the ocean of emissions since corporations (supply side) make up the super-majority of emissions, we need supply side changes, not blaming individual consumers as if you would even be able to change most people's minds.

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Name something, anything, you can buy in a store and I'll tell you how inhumane it is.

Yes, that also includes a loaf of bread.

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I have serious doubts about anything labelled as "ethical".

It's like every year some investigative journalist reveals that the labwjs and prices on promised ethical products are bullshit.

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Australia still has kmart