Bad Influence.

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No but Huck Finn, To Kill a Mocking Bird, and other American literary classics are regularly banned/brought back across the US. They use justifications such as “coarse language” and other bullshit, but it’s almost always books that speak truth to power/about systemic bigotry in the US.

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That'll be next week in the U.S.

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Wahou... I never knew ban/brought back book was commun in some place. That's wild.

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I did say 1984 is probably not apt for those under tween age. The cartoon post depicting the kids don't look like tweens. They look like seven or eight years old or maybe even younger.

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My bad I missed the “under”

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Oh yeah it’s been a problem for a long time and it’s only gotten worse since all conservative fixation on libraries and CRT picked up.

MacN'Cheezus

Probably at work I'd assume. Were you never a teenager?

Flying Squid

First of all, the kids in this comic are clearly not teenagers, so you need to decide whether or not you're talking about the comic since you were one post ago.

Secondly, you have not even acknowledged that these book banning laws will end up imprisoning librarians. It's all about how kids, if they are somehow magically aware of it, can bypass libraries to read certain specific books that are banned.

Cool, now how do they get access to Gender Queer or The Bluest Eye? Because those are banned too and will also put librarians in prison and they are not in the public domain. How about And Tango Makes Three, the often-banned picture book for children, which is a true story about two male penguins in a zoo that adopted a baby chick. A librarian letting a kid have access to a book about penguins could end up in prison for it.

Because as it is, you seem to be implying that the only banned book of any significance is 1984 and if librarians get imprisoned for letting someone under 18 read it, good.

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Fun fact: 1984 by George Orwell is legal in China

but as you can see, it doesnt matter

people don't make the connection to IRL

MacN'Cheezus

First of all, the kids in this comic are clearly not teenagers, so you need to decide whether or not you're talking about the comic since you were one post ago.

It's kinda hard to tell tbh because not all kids reach their growth spurts at the same time, I'm just assuming that based on his interest in 1984, which contains rather mature themes that require a certain level of mental development to even appreciate. If these are preteens, I would question how they even heard about the book why they'd be interested in it, or whether they aren't just being used as pawns by an adult trying to make a political statement.

Secondly, you have not even acknowledged that these book banning laws will end up imprisoning librarians. It's all about how kids, if they are somehow magically aware of it, can bypass libraries to read certain specific books that are banned.

You said yourself that this law you mentioned is still under consideration, so everything concerning that is basically speculation until it has actually been passed.

Cool, now how do they get access to Gender Queer or The Bluest Eye? Because those are banned too and will also put librarians in prison and they are not in the public domain. How about And Tango Makes Three, the often-banned picture book for children, which is a true story about two male penguins in a zoo that adopted a baby chick. A librarian letting a kid have access to a book about penguins could end up in prison for it.

Because as it is, you seem to be implying that the only banned book of any significance is 1984 and if librarians get imprisoned for letting someone under 18 read it, good.

Well, all I'll say is that there's a reason the artist chose 1984 and not one of those other books (even though the one about penguins would probably have made an even better contrast to watching animal cruelty videos).

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The US school system does not allow for truth to be more complicated than "COMMUNISTS BAD, AMERICA GOOD".
Anything more complex and nuanced than that and the poor kids would get an aneurysm from to much thinking

Flying Squid

You said yourself that this law you mentioned is still under consideration, so everything concerning that is basically speculation until it has actually been passed.

Are you shitting me? I was talking about a specific law in Indiana about public librarians that would affect my wife if passed (and every indication is that it will pass). Such laws have been passed all over the country already regarding school librarians.

Librarians fear new penalties, even prison, as activists challenge books

Across the country, book bans and attempted bans have soared to the highest levels in decades. Public and school-based libraries have been inundated with complaints from community members and conservative activists.

AP News (apnews.com)

Inside the two-year fight to bring charges against school librarians in Granbury, Texas

An 824-page file details an officer’s attempt to prosecute librarians in Granbury, Texas, amid a nationwide battle over the books children are allowed to read.

NBC News (www.nbcnews.com)

Washington Post: “School Librarians Face a New Penalty in the Banned-Book Wars: Prison”

From a WaPo Article: Librarians could face years of imprisonment and tens of thousands in fines for providing sexually explicit, obscene or “harmful” books to children under new state laws that permit criminal prosecution of school and library personnel. At least seven states have passed such laws in the last two years, according to a […]

Library Journal infoDOCKET (www.infodocket.com)

It's even already a law about school librarians in Indiana:

Educators, librarians could face criminal prosecution and a level 6 felony over controversial books

A controversial new law bans “harmful materials” from schools and libraries and some say it could lead to the criminal prosecution of teachers and librarians.Ho

WSBT (wsbt.com)

But you being fine with librarians getting imprisoned for corrupting the vulnerable youth with evil, evil books is noted.

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12ish it begins here. I figured they were about that age or a little younger. Either way, other than actual pornography and gratuitous graphic violence, there isn't much under the sun I think kids shouldn't read at school. Sex in books is ok -- that's what people do

MacN'Cheezus

Did you actually read these articles, or are you just trying to stoke a panic?

The first one explicitly says that "no librarian or educator has been jailed" (as of April 9 last year), while the second details an apparently extremely far right LEO in friggin' TEXAS (which I assume is likely on the forefront of these efforts) spending a whole TWO YEARS gathering evidence to indict a couple of small town librarians for making these books available, with nothing to show for it (because the county judge declined to even hear the case).

So if Texas can't even indict anyone for these "crimes", what makes you think that Indiana will?

Flying Squid

"It hasn't happened yet therefore it will never happen" is a pretty stupid argument when laws are already being passed.

20 million people haven't been deported and trans people haven't been erased yet either. So I guess those will also never happen. No tariffs, not going to happen because it hasn't happened yet.

Trump and Republicans only care about saving the children after all.