Help me find information about scandals, security problems, and failure to respect users involving these proprietary social media apps
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Hey! Following the #GlobalSwitchDay initiative, can you share any scandal, security problems or situations in which the proprietary apps have failed to care for their users? I would like to gather information for each app so people I know can be more informed about what they're using. Mention things that you might even take for granted, some people are completely unaware.
The apps are:
Whatsapp, Reddit, X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok. -
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Hey! Following the #GlobalSwitchDay initiative, can you share any scandal, security problems or situations in which the proprietary apps have failed to care for their users? I would like to gather information for each app so people I know can be more informed about what they're using. Mention things that you might even take for granted, some people are completely unaware.
The apps are:
Whatsapp, Reddit, X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok.I'll start with one:
Cambridge Analytica https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook–Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal -
Hey! Following the #GlobalSwitchDay initiative, can you share any scandal, security problems or situations in which the proprietary apps have failed to care for their users? I would like to gather information for each app so people I know can be more informed about what they're using. Mention things that you might even take for granted, some people are completely unaware.
The apps are:
Whatsapp, Reddit, X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok.Facebook - Zuckerberg and his role in enabling ethnic cleansing in Myanmar
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Hey! Following the #GlobalSwitchDay initiative, can you share any scandal, security problems or situations in which the proprietary apps have failed to care for their users? I would like to gather information for each app so people I know can be more informed about what they're using. Mention things that you might even take for granted, some people are completely unaware.
The apps are:
Whatsapp, Reddit, X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok.Signal: 0-click deanonymisation: https://gist.github.com/hackermondev/45a3cdfa52246f1d1201c1e8cdef6117
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Hey! Following the #GlobalSwitchDay initiative, can you share any scandal, security problems or situations in which the proprietary apps have failed to care for their users? I would like to gather information for each app so people I know can be more informed about what they're using. Mention things that you might even take for granted, some people are completely unaware.
The apps are:
Whatsapp, Reddit, X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok.We can argue abozt the usefullness of Signal Ort the usability of Matrix. But please remove Signal from the chart as it suggests it is federated.
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We can argue abozt the usefullness of Signal Ort the usability of Matrix. But please remove Signal from the chart as it suggests it is federated.
Hi, I didn't created the chart, and you're right, Signal is not federated. But I think the big aspect several people have missed about this initiative is not which FOSS option for messaging is the best (which I understand is a big matter of concern for a lot of people already aware of the problems of proprietary apps), but making people completely unaware that there are options know that they can use something that respects their privacy and treats them as humans, not just "users"/"consumers", which is from my point of view, one of the main strengths of FOSS and Fedi apps.
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Hey! Following the #GlobalSwitchDay initiative, can you share any scandal, security problems or situations in which the proprietary apps have failed to care for their users? I would like to gather information for each app so people I know can be more informed about what they're using. Mention things that you might even take for granted, some people are completely unaware.
The apps are:
Whatsapp, Reddit, X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok.for WhatsApp the founders quit over privacy concerns, and made signal
there's also a nice (long) article by propublica from a few years ago
How Facebook Undermines Privacy Protections for Its 2 Billion WhatsApp Users
WhatsApp assures users that no one can see their messages — but the company has an extensive monitoring operation and regularly shares personal information with prosecutors.
ProPublica (www.propublica.org)
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Signal: 0-click deanonymisation: https://gist.github.com/hackermondev/45a3cdfa52246f1d1201c1e8cdef6117
It's an interesting attack, but I'd hardly call getting the location within a ±200 mile radius deanonymisation.
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It's an interesting attack, but I'd hardly call getting the location within a ±200 mile radius deanonymisation.
It’s a 0click so you have to have vpn running the entire time on any device that you install signal on
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It’s a 0click so you have to have vpn running the entire time on any device that you install signal on
And if i don't they might find out I'm in the country that i live in.
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Hi, I didn't created the chart, and you're right, Signal is not federated. But I think the big aspect several people have missed about this initiative is not which FOSS option for messaging is the best (which I understand is a big matter of concern for a lot of people already aware of the problems of proprietary apps), but making people completely unaware that there are options know that they can use something that respects their privacy and treats them as humans, not just "users"/"consumers", which is from my point of view, one of the main strengths of FOSS and Fedi apps.
I get your point, but having Signal in a "Get Federated" list is very misleading at best.
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Hey! Following the #GlobalSwitchDay initiative, can you share any scandal, security problems or situations in which the proprietary apps have failed to care for their users? I would like to gather information for each app so people I know can be more informed about what they're using. Mention things that you might even take for granted, some people are completely unaware.
The apps are:
Whatsapp, Reddit, X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok.NotYourArmy
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Hey! Following the #GlobalSwitchDay initiative, can you share any scandal, security problems or situations in which the proprietary apps have failed to care for their users? I would like to gather information for each app so people I know can be more informed about what they're using. Mention things that you might even take for granted, some people are completely unaware.
The apps are:
Whatsapp, Reddit, X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok.A "please" is warranted
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We can argue abozt the usefullness of Signal Ort the usability of Matrix. But please remove Signal from the chart as it suggests it is federated.
I wish they'd quit again and make something foss
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Hi, I didn't created the chart, and you're right, Signal is not federated. But I think the big aspect several people have missed about this initiative is not which FOSS option for messaging is the best (which I understand is a big matter of concern for a lot of people already aware of the problems of proprietary apps), but making people completely unaware that there are options know that they can use something that respects their privacy and treats them as humans, not just "users"/"consumers", which is from my point of view, one of the main strengths of FOSS and Fedi apps.
Wow, you're demanding us to do your bidding, and you're too lazy to even update the post
You realize low effort posts is ban worthy, right?
There's the door. Come back when you're willing to do a small amount of leg work
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Hey! Following the #GlobalSwitchDay initiative, can you share any scandal, security problems or situations in which the proprietary apps have failed to care for their users? I would like to gather information for each app so people I know can be more informed about what they're using. Mention things that you might even take for granted, some people are completely unaware.
The apps are:
Whatsapp, Reddit, X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook Messenger, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok.Idk if I’m dumb but I’ve never figured out how PeerTube works. I try to join and I wind up on some instance that has 5 weird videos that I have no interest in. Feels very unapproachable despite me already having more exposure to the Fediverse then your average person.
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for WhatsApp the founders quit over privacy concerns, and made signal
there's also a nice (long) article by propublica from a few years ago
How Facebook Undermines Privacy Protections for Its 2 Billion WhatsApp Users
WhatsApp assures users that no one can see their messages — but the company has an extensive monitoring operation and regularly shares personal information with prosecutors.
ProPublica (www.propublica.org)
Iirc, Acton donated to signal, they didn't go on to make it as an alternative. Signal existed long before he left, and even longer ago as open whisper systems' TextSexure, which was a means of SMS / MMS encryption.
This was all founded by moxie back in 2013
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Idk if I’m dumb but I’ve never figured out how PeerTube works. I try to join and I wind up on some instance that has 5 weird videos that I have no interest in. Feels very unapproachable despite me already having more exposure to the Fediverse then your average person.
Check this list out with PeerTube servers to choose from: https://lemmy.wtf/post/15816115
There’s also a post in the same community, with a list of content creators on PeerTube.
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It’s a 0click so you have to have vpn running the entire time on any device that you install signal on
VPNs are pretty much dead simple to set up, and nowadays doesn't really have all the usability problems it used to have; I don't really see the issue here?