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From what I can tell, this tankie stuff is bullshit. In the years I've been here, I've seen close to zero 'tankie' content from any of these supposedly tankie instances. There's like maybe one or two people on those instances who might fit the description if you search for them. Meanwhile, literally every day there are posts spitting on these supposed tankie instances. (And actually, it's again a very small number of people complaining - but they put their crap into cute memes to get traction).
I don't like the idea of shouting slurs at entire instances. In my view, if you hate those instances so much - just block them. Problem solved. No need to spew hate all over lemmy.
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I have a very different experience. When Hexbear was still federated with the large instances it was total mayhem. They would turn every thread political, constantly spam images of dictators like Stalin and Mao, and swarm anyone who disagreed. I've seen them deny the wrongdoings of China and the Soviet Union quite often, which is probably also what's necessary if you spam Mao and Stalin unironically.
I'm quite left of center myself, at least relative to most people I know in real life. But these people seemed totally insane. It was probably also a numbers game, since Hexbear was relatively large at the time compared to basically every other instance. So maybe this was just an annoying minority. But nevertheless I'd never purposefully go there, and I'd recommend anyone to stay away. It's way better than for instance a Trumpist/far-right instance, but I'd rather avoid both.
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Anyone who disagrees with their narratives is banned in hexbear. Ml was the default for a while so loads of people on there who have no idea what a tankie even is.
you seem to be getting hexbear confused with .world
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The USA, Israel, Russia, and China all support genocide.
Now you say it.
Ok senator McCarthy, not sure what that has to do with what I said. While you're here, will you also condemn Ukraine's Donbas genocide?
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.rar isn't a domain yet is it? Lol
Lemmy.7z
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They sensor criticism of the CCP
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We have Ukrainian/Uyghur genocide denial!
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I have to ask, are shitlibs aware that Wikipedia isn't divine gospel, and that there are other works in the history of humanity? Because it seems to inevitably be their one and only go to, which is particularly embarrassing given that even a middle school teacher could tell you that it's not a good source. Even worse, it doesn't' even back up your claim!
Yes it does. Wikipedia is a fairly neutral source. Middle school teachers will tell you that tertiary sources are a good way to start your research when you apparently have no idea what you're talking about.
tankie Meaning | Politics by Dictionary.com
A tankie is a leftist political insult for a communist who defends Stalinism or supports authoritarian or militaristic, anti-capitalist regimes.
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Urban Dictionary: tankie
A hardline Stalinist. A tankie is a member of a communist group or a "fellow traveller" (sympathiser) who believes fully in the political system of the Soviet Union and defends/defended the actions of the Soviet Union and other accredited states (China, Serbia, etc.) to the hilt, even in cases where other communists criticise their policies or actions. For instance, such a person favours overseas interventions by Soviet-style states, defends these regimes when they engage in human rights violations, and wishes to establish a similar system in other countries such as Britain and America. The term is used to distinguish the rare individuals with these kinds of beliefs from communists more broadly (including Communist Party members), whose adherence to Soviet doctrine and attachment to existing "socialist" states is somewhat weaker. It is always more-or-less abusive in the sense that those termed tankies do not use the term themselves, but it doesn't have any particular bite (unlike, say, Trot). The term derives from the fact that the divisions within the communist movement first arose when the Soviet Union sent tanks into communist Hungary in 1956, to crush an attempt to establish an alternative version of communism which was not embraced by the Russians. Most communists outside the eastern bloc opposed this action and criticised the Soviet Union. The "tankies" were those who said "send the tanks in". The epithet has stuck because tankies also supported "sending the tanks in" in cases such as Czechoslovakia 1968, Afghanistan 1979, Bosnia and Kosovo/a (in the case of the Serbian state), and so on (whereas the rest of the communist movement has gravitated towards anti-militarism).
Urban Dictionary (www.urbandictionary.com)
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Just reading and following the situation unfold. Whereas I can’t understand why someone is ok with the US lifting a ban on arming Nazis, but somehow I’m the asshole for just being aware of that.
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The tankie triad
making a bunch of forums seem so dark and mysterious
have you considered that some of us are just silly goofy girls
Hai im a silly girl
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Yes it does. Wikipedia is a fairly neutral source. Middle school teachers will tell you that tertiary sources are a good way to start your research when you apparently have no idea what you're talking about.
tankie Meaning | Politics by Dictionary.com
A tankie is a leftist political insult for a communist who defends Stalinism or supports authoritarian or militaristic, anti-capitalist regimes.
Dictionary.com (www.dictionary.com)
Urban Dictionary: tankie
A hardline Stalinist. A tankie is a member of a communist group or a "fellow traveller" (sympathiser) who believes fully in the political system of the Soviet Union and defends/defended the actions of the Soviet Union and other accredited states (China, Serbia, etc.) to the hilt, even in cases where other communists criticise their policies or actions. For instance, such a person favours overseas interventions by Soviet-style states, defends these regimes when they engage in human rights violations, and wishes to establish a similar system in other countries such as Britain and America. The term is used to distinguish the rare individuals with these kinds of beliefs from communists more broadly (including Communist Party members), whose adherence to Soviet doctrine and attachment to existing "socialist" states is somewhat weaker. It is always more-or-less abusive in the sense that those termed tankies do not use the term themselves, but it doesn't have any particular bite (unlike, say, Trot). The term derives from the fact that the divisions within the communist movement first arose when the Soviet Union sent tanks into communist Hungary in 1956, to crush an attempt to establish an alternative version of communism which was not embraced by the Russians. Most communists outside the eastern bloc opposed this action and criticised the Soviet Union. The "tankies" were those who said "send the tanks in". The epithet has stuck because tankies also supported "sending the tanks in" in cases such as Czechoslovakia 1968, Afghanistan 1979, Bosnia and Kosovo/a (in the case of the Serbian state), and so on (whereas the rest of the communist movement has gravitated towards anti-militarism).
Urban Dictionary (www.urbandictionary.com)
Wikipedia is a fairly neutral source.
I mean, it's basically your bible, your one and only source for everything. Of course you think it's neutral. It's not, by the way, but you think it is.
Middle school teachers will tell you that tertiary sources are a good way to start your research when you apparently have no idea what you’re talking about.
That makes sense then, as it's obvious that neoliberals who only cite Wikipedia have no idea what they're talking about.
Urban Dictionary: tankie
A hardline Stalinist. A tankie is a member of a communist group or a "fellow traveller" (sympathiser) who believes fully in the political system of the Soviet Union and defends/defended the actions of the Soviet Union and other accredited states (China, Serbia, etc.) to the hilt, even in cases where other communists criticise their policies or actions. For instance, such a person favours overseas interventions by Soviet-style states, defends these regimes when they engage in human rights violations, and wishes to establish a similar system in other countries such as Britain and America. The term is used to distinguish the rare individuals with these kinds of beliefs from communists more broadly (including Communist Party members), whose adherence to Soviet doctrine and attachment to existing "socialist" states is somewhat weaker. It is always more-or-less abusive in the sense that those termed tankies do not use the term themselves, but it doesn't have any particular bite (unlike, say, Trot). The term derives from the fact that the divisions within the communist movement first arose when the Soviet Union sent tanks into communist Hungary in 1956, to crush an attempt to establish an alternative version of communism which was not embraced by the Russians. Most communists outside the eastern bloc opposed this action and criticised the Soviet Union. The "tankies" were those who said "send the tanks in". The epithet has stuck because tankies also supported "sending the tanks in" in cases such as Czechoslovakia 1968, Afghanistan 1979, Bosnia and Kosovo/a (in the case of the Serbian state), and so on (whereas the rest of the communist movement has gravitated towards anti-militarism).
Urban Dictionary (www.urbandictionary.com)
Oh wow, really digging deep for sources now.
Though even these sources basically confirm that it's a vaguely defended snarl word that can be leveled at anyone to the left of Bernie Sanders.
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The irony of this is that not being a western bootlicker does automatically make you a Russian bootlicker, according to the people complaining about the "tankie triad".
Wow, practically in the same breath as asking me to believe Putin's "de-nazification".
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ah yes, thats right! there are only two sides, western fascism, or eastern.
There's only two sides: fascism vs humanity.
No need for phony racist divisions.
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lemm.ee federates with all three of the mentioned instances.
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Imagine believing that CCP is a good representative of destroying capitalism. Typical lib. smh.
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I've met people in reality who feel the same way as you, and I wanted to ask you something:
Wonder if our media that is largely Republican controlled and owned by Western billionaires could maybe have some anti-CCP bias
Why does that mean that China is good? Like I understand that specific things western media says could be wrong, but we have a hell of a lot of proof about what they've done. So what I don't get is, sure media is owned by billionaires and corrupt, but why does that mean that the exact opposite is what's true? Stalin/Nazi Germany and Hitler/Germany hated each other, constantly lied about each other, but that never meant that either of them were 'good.' So why does it apply here?
No state is good. It's actually not good to make up lines on a map and violently control people according to it. USA might be the worst.
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There’s a shit ton of far-right and Sinophobic people on .world. They can’t abide anything that isn’t in line with whatever the CIA is saying.
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If you want nothing farther left than drumpf memes, and also like being a little bit bigoted towards Muslims, then Lemmy.world is gonna be a nice cozy home for you.
Hai! I'm new here, are all of these comments that I can't see from .world users? I assume .ml is defederated from .world?
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No mention of dbzer0. com anywhere in the meme or text? To any newcomers, if you wouldn't download a car then you don't need to know about that instance.
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Wow, practically in the same breath as asking me to believe Putin's "de-nazification".
Oh, so turns out you can deny genocides then? Oh right, only if it's not the west making the accusation.
