Moe's Finale (Created by KiddieJay)
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fan project.
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Was a really touching story that cut deep about serious mental health issues…
…until chapter 18 where the author goes off the deep end with reductive manosphere bs…
Gonna be a no from me
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I don’t quite remember Moe being quite so…buff!
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this rocks! will you be posting future issues here as well? I dont wanna miss new issues but i also dont want to go back to reddit lol
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Fushuan [he/him]replied to [email protected] last edited by
WYM with reductive manosphere bs? I feel like it was quite overboard but in it’s essence it’s grounded in reality. It’s a bit hyperbole but that’s the theme of the comic overall.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Yeah, that was jarring. I wasn’t expecting to be reading Moe Szyslak fan fic today
it seemed a bit all over the place and not quite focused, but that makes sense since the author was like 18 or 19, apparently. I was enjoying this a bit, but then the men’s discrimination bs appeared - and while there IS stigma around men’s mental health, the way it is handled here is bullshit 
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Yeah, that was really… weird.
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Wow, this is awesome. Especially the initial rejection in 3&4 resonates with me.
I like that they both form a sort of codependent relationship based on their trauma. This sort of unstable relationship is the ground for some great relatable stories. I do hope that they can stick together after overcoming their trauma. That would be a really nice ending. A bad storyending, but the message would be nice: “Even this can be overcome”.
Also 18 is relatable. Way overdone, kinda like Twitter but on the frontdesk. Though it’s nice of them to warn people that they won’t get help there. Wish some real places would adopt that honesty.
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The last page of issue 19 explains that in the last paragraph
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Well, I’m a bit surprised by the premise at first glance but very intrigued. Seems like something I can’t read in one sitting, so I’ll save this for later.
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[email protected]replied to Fushuan [he/him] last edited by
Exactly this. The exaggeration helps illustrate the point, it’s not easy for men to find FREE help for these things, and a lot of those places are explicitly safe places for traumatized women, which for many women at their most vulnerable means no men.
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Kiddie has explained this further with people in relation to what happened in issue 18. As I mentioned, it was made when she was 18-19, so she had some strong opinions on the subject matter that have moreso mellowed out with time. Also, it is trying to show the hyperbole of Springfield as a place where Moe cannot easily find help.
Although, A bunch of the quotes mentioned in that sequence came from people she knows in relation to trying to find mental health services for men, so there is a grounding in reality there.
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Kiddie has explained this further with people in relation to what happened in issue 18. As I mentioned, it was made when she was 18-19, so she had some strong opinions on the subject matter that have moreso mellowed out with time. Also, it is trying to show the hyperbole of Springfield as a place where Moe cannot easily find help.
Although, A bunch of the quotes mentioned in that sequence came from people she knows in relation to trying to find mental health services for men, so there is a grounding in reality there.
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[email protected]replied to Fushuan [he/him] last edited by
It reinforces the idea for men not to bother getting help in the first place - you're a man, they won't take you seriously anyway, they will call you weak, don't ask for help, just give up. That's the inner logic of clinical depression and the comic supports it.
And it's a really dangerous thing to imply because it could keep men further from the available support systems. It's discouraging. I'm not questioning weather those things could have been said by someone, but it kinda seems like the author took some horrible TERF talking points and went "I guess it will be the same in mental health".
